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Old 10-09-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It is also for a job that thanks to the union negotiation, now will earn the person about $6/hour less than previously...

Happy days indeed.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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We had 700 people apply for one position as a teller in the treasurer's office here at the city. One position.....700 people. Do you know how much a pain in the ass that was to score all those written exams? Plus do the background checks on everyone....the eligible list still isnt done.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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Wow. Another "blame Obama" thread.

Yes, it's Obama's fault that 10,000 people applied for 90 jobs.

Get real.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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When my wife was a elem. principal there were 3-500 apps for every job.
When I was a office clerk we used to receive about 250-300 applications for one position. I know because I had to send cards to all the people and thank them for applying but letting them know the position had been filled. This was probably 2001-2002.
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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When I was a office clerk we used to receive about 250-300 applications for one position. I know because I had to send cards to all the people and thank them for applying but letting them know the position had been filled. This was probably 2001-2002.
When I worked at the recruiting agency, I had to ENTER them all into a system. Every resume! And like I said, that was prior to everyone using email/internet (this was, I want to say around 1997). I can only imagine how many they get now that people can simply email them off.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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As previously mentioned in this thread, that equates to about 100 per job. During the boom in the 90's, I was a recruiter for an employment agency. The pile of resumes we received for each job was tremendous, easily over 100 per position.

I can only imagine how many work we'd have been wading through if we had the capability to post jobs online and have people email resumes... this was back in the day when everyone faxed everything in.
I beg to differ

My wife was an IT recruiter in the 90's who earned over 200K per year because there was so much demand for qualified help. Yes, for NT admins, MCSE's and help desk people, there were many resumes per job opening. However, for software programmers, software and hardware engineers, it was very competitive and you had to compete for talent. Kids out of college were getting jobs for 60K in the IT industry even if they were not engineers. Business people could go into recruiting, HR or serve as consultants and business analysts. English majors could get jobs as technical writers. There were many sales positions related to these companies that anyone could essentially qualify for. All of that ended when venture capital companies stopped funding failing companies (dotcoms) and established companies began outsourcing to India. Those same programmers, engineers and college grads that were in demand were suddenly scrambling for work. So it's a bald faced lie to say that this same thing occurred in the 90's. That comment is beyond ludicrous.

There was so much demand for help that a person with no experience recruiting could join an IT recruiting company and make 6 figures beause the commission on each job placement was so high. Companies were willing to pay 15-20K to hire a programmer. That industry is almost dead now but it should tell you how much better the economy was back then wen recruiters were being paid thousands to recruit people with just 2 years or experience or even college grads with computer science degrees. Now you have 10,000 people applying for 90 blue collar jobs that pay less than 30K.

p.s. People were e-maiing resumes in 1997! Where did you live...West Viriginia. You certainly didn't live in California or the Bay area for that matter

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Old 10-09-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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When I was a office clerk we used to receive about 250-300 applications for one position. I know because I had to send cards to all the people and thank them for applying but letting them know the position had been filled. This was probably 2001-2002.
2001 is when the poop hit the fan. That's when the dotcoms went belly up and the massive outsourcing occurred. I had a friend who was hired by Cisco in 2000 to recruit for 20,000 employees. In 2001, he was layed off and they told him they were going to lay off 20,000 employees instead because they were going to outsource. So it's not suprising that occurred in 2001-2002.

The truth is the housing crisis we feel today is connected to 2001. When the outsourcing resulted in massive layoffs and unemployment, Bush sought to stabilize the economy by lowering the interest rates. We kept lowering interest rates to stir the economy by increasing the cosumer driven market. The idea is that reduced interest rates would increase spending behavior which would improve the economy. It did for a short period of time and you know the rest.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I beg to differ

My wife was an IT recruiter in the 90's who earned over 200K per year because there was so much demand for qualified help. Yes, for NT admins, MCSE's and help desk people, there were many resumes per job opening. However, for software programmers, software and hardware engineers, it was very competitive and you had to compete for talent. Kids out of college were getting jobs for 60K in the IT industry even if they were not engineers. Business people could go into recruiting, HR or serve as consultants and business analysts. English majors could get jobs as technical writers. There were many sales positions related to these companies that anyone could essentially qualify for. All of that ended when venture capital companies stopped funding failing companies (dotcoms) and established companies began outsourcing to India. Those same programmers, engineers and college grads that were in demand were suddenly scrambling for work. So it's a bald faced lie to say that this same thing occurred in the 90's. That comment is beyond ludicrous.

There was so much demand for help that a person with no experience recruiting could join an IT recruiting company and make 6 figures beause the commission on each job placement was so high. Companies were willing to pay 15-20K to hire a programmer. That industry is almost dead now but it should tell you how much better the economy was back then wen recruiters were being paid thousands to recruit people with just 2 years or experience or even college grads with computer science degrees. Now you have 10,000 people applying for 90 blue collar jobs that pay less than 30K.

p.s. People were e-maiing resumes in 1997! Where did you live...West Viriginia. You certainly didn't live in California or the Bay area for that matter
I worked in Manhattan for one of the largest recruiting firms in the world. We did not use email when I worked there from 1996-1998. Every resume came in via fax, mail or in person. I then worked at a very large credit card company, and you had to apply for permission to have internet access. I have always worked at large corps and did not start to see email and internet being widely used until about 2000.

You are talking about people with college degrees vs. people with no degrees. The field I worked in placed people with no degrees, and guess what, you get a CRAPLOAD of applicants.

And yes - we received hundreds of resumes per job. I was not an IT recruiter. We placed people in entry level office jobs so EVERYONE applied.
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Old 10-09-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And here the MSM and government are telling us the ratio of people to jobs is 6:1.
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Old 10-09-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Come on. 10000 divided by 90 = 111, roughly.

I was barely awake at 6am, when I divided 10,000 by 90 in my head, and came up with 110.

Guess 7 Wishes needs to work on his/her math skills.
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