Navy moves to put women on submarines (Congress, weapons, cost)

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

U.S. Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., a former secretary of the Navy, said Wednesday that he supports Defense Secretary Robert Gates' decision to begin allowing women to serve on submarines.

Sen. Jim Webb supports Gates' decision to allow women on submarines - dailypress.com

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by ovcatto

Yeah but it probably wouldn't run into a Japanese tourist boat.

Nor would their torpedos fired at an enemy warship.

[DraggingCanoe]

Most women do not relate well to electrical systems, high pressure air systems, hydraulic systems, propulsion systems, etc.

How many women have burned out a clothes dryer because they failed to clean the lint trap or by placing a certain nylon feminine apparel.

A tragedy in the making putting "qualified women" on a submarine.

[hothulamaui]

Originally Posted by DraggingCanoe

Most women do not relate well to electrical systems, high pressure air systems, hydraulic systems, propulsion systems, etc.

How many women have burned out a clothes dryer because they failed to clean the lint trap or by placing a certain nylon feminine apparel.

A tragedy in the making putting "qualified women" on a submarine.

having a ability with these things is not based on sex but interest and the ability to learn. you must drag you knuckles as well as that canoe

[hothulamaui]

Originally Posted by momonkey

It's a terrible idea. You have to be quiet on submarines so the enemy doesn't hear you. How is the US Navy going to get a bunch of females to shut up?

you have got to be kidding. women in the service of their country take it as seriously as any man. keeping silent when need be would not be an issue. how childish to think otherwise

[hothulamaui]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Not unless you count common sense. Given the nature of submarine service, with an all female crew there would be so much bitchiness and infighting that discipline and morale would totally break down. Go right ahead with this idea if you insist, but say goodbye to the gals; in the event of war they would be sunk at the onset.

another bunch of total BS. the same thing can be said for the testosterone floating around an all male crew. women soldiers take their service as seriously as any man

[BlackShoe]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

women soldiers take their service as seriously as any man

Their patriotism, dedication to duty, and intelligence is not being denied or questioned. What is being debated is the physical shortcomings of women compared to men, and their emotional makeup and stability when subjected to the rigors of military service, in this case, submarine duty, and their impact on the efficiency of their unit when serving with men.

[DraggingCanoe]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

another bunch of total BS. the same thing can be said for the testosterone floating around an all male crew. women soldiers take their service as seriously as any man

Let say you get a call from the ISG, he needs a detail to move a heavy wooden desk from the first floor to the second. There is no elevator. Send the ISG two female soldiers and see what happens.

[DraggingCanoe]

Originally Posted by hothulamaui

having a ability with these things is not based on sex but interest and the ability to learn. you must drag you knuckles as well as that canoe

It is easy to trivialize arguments by attacking the personal integrity of those who make them. That way, you need not deal with the argument itself.

[sailordave]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

Yes, women get pregnant. On or off ship. Mandated birth control would solve the "problem," but I don't really see pregnancy as a problem.

Then you don't know what you're talking about. If the ship or sub doesn't have the facilities to deal with the pregnancy or the woman is beyond a certain point in her pregnancy then she's off the ship. Sub crews are already limited.