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Old 04-01-2012, 04:49 PM
 
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That's right up there with Michelle Bachmann's "Well, this mother told me how the HPV vaccine made her daughter mentally retarded" story...
STOP embarassing yourself! Flu shot CAN and has caused Guillian Barre! The Assembly of God pastor that preached my mom's funeral and is an old, family friend got a flu shot and was paralyzed and seriously ill with GB. His docs did not even try to tell him there was no link. They all admitted it was the shot but of course they told him that he is the exception, not the norm.

The flu shot is not the only shot that GB is connected to.

Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS) and its link to the Flu Shot / Vaccination :: San Antonio Injury Attorney Blog

Guillain-Barre Syndrome - What is Guillain-Barre Syndrome - GBS

Va. teen suffers rare illness after swine flu shot - Health - Cold and flu - Swine flu - msnbc.com


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Old 04-01-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Medical statistician Michael Alderson, author of several classic research texts, has shown how infectious diseases had sharply declined before mass vaccination ever came upon the scene. Many researchers feel from looking at the data that infectious diseases would have largely disappeared without any vaccines, due to improvements in sanitation and hygiene before mass inoculations took place.
Australian medical researcher Viera Scheibner, Ph.D., summarized her investigation of some 30,000 pages of medical literature on vaccination in “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome,” a 1999 letter to Congress: “Immunizations, including those practiced on babies, not only did not prevent any infectious diseases, they caused more suffering and more deaths than has any other human activity in the entire history of medical intervention. It will be decades before the mopping-up after the disasters caused by childhood vaccination will be completed. All vaccinations should cease forthwith, and all victims of their side effects should be appropriately compensated.”
We Didn’t Need to be Rescued This table show how dieseases have on their own during this century. The numbers indicate the approximate year that mass vaccinations were introduced.
And this ^^ is a lie.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Some Misconceptions

MISCONCEPTION #1 - Diseases had already begun to disappear before vaccines were introduced, because of better hygiene and sanitation.
Statements like this are very common in anti-vaccine literature, the intent apparently being to suggest that vaccines are not needed. Improved socioeconomic conditions have undoubtedly had an indirect impact on disease. Better nutrition, not to mention the development of antibiotics and other treatments, have increased survival rates among the sick; less crowded living conditions have reduced disease transmission; and lower birth rates have decreased the number of susceptible household contacts. But looking at the actual incidence of disease over the years can leave little doubt of the significant direct impact vaccines have had, even in modern times. Here, for example, is a graph showing the reported incidence of measles from 1950 to the present.


You will have to actually look at the link to see the chart.

(Mod note: govt. website)
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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And this ^^ is a lie.

Vaccines: Vac-Gen/Some Misconceptions

MISCONCEPTION #1 - Diseases had already begun to disappear before vaccines were introduced, because of better hygiene and sanitation.
Statements like this are very common in anti-vaccine literature, the intent apparently being to suggest that vaccines are not needed. Improved socioeconomic conditions have undoubtedly had an indirect impact on disease. Better nutrition, not to mention the development of antibiotics and other treatments, have increased survival rates among the sick; less crowded living conditions have reduced disease transmission; and lower birth rates have decreased the number of susceptible household contacts. But looking at the actual incidence of disease over the years can leave little doubt of the significant direct impact vaccines have had, even in modern times. Here, for example, is a graph showing the reported incidence of measles from 1950 to the present.


You will have to actually look at the link to see the chart.

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Where your data comes from and how you interpret it is subjective and certainly debatable. The term "lie" is not one I would I use.

However, what you are singling out that you are calling a lie has nothing to do with why I posted the article, as I stated, so not sure why you think it is even relevant.

i.e. (immunization vs vaccination)
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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Default My body, my choice

It's only going to get worse when ObamaCare goes into effect and the government starts mandating unnecessary inoculations for everybody otherwise you'll have to pay a fine.

Meanwhile patients are more likely to contract MRSA infection from diseased and dirty hospitals than to catch the flu from a nurse.

RIP America

Nurses Fired For Refusing Flu Shot
'This is my body, I have a right to refuse'
Ethel Hoover ends a 22-year nursing career after refusing an act that her employers required.
The hospital said in a statement that it implemented the mandate to promote patient safety based on recommendations from the American Medical Association, the American Nurses Association, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It announced the mandate in September. Of the hospital's 26,000 employees statewide, 95 percent complied. That means 1,300 employees did not comply, but only eight were fired.

hmm, so why weren't the other 1,292 nurses fired for not getting the flu shot?

I smell a lawsuit and I hope the nurses win.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's only going to get worse when ObamaCare goes into effect and the government starts mandating unnecessary inoculations for everybody otherwise you'll have to pay a fine.

Meanwhile patients are more likely to contract MRSA infection from diseased and dirty hospitals than to catch the flu from a nurse.

RIP America

Nurses Fired For Refusing Flu Shot
'This is my body, I have a right to refuse'
Ethel Hoover ends a 22-year nursing career after refusing an act that her employers required.
The hospital said in a statement that it implemented the mandate to promote patient safety based on recommendations from the American Medical Association, the American Nurses Association, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It announced the mandate in September. Of the hospital's 26,000 employees statewide, 95 percent complied. That means 1,300 employees did not comply, but only eight were fired.

hmm, so why weren't the other 1,292 nurses fired for not getting the flu shot?

I smell a lawsuit and I hope the nurses win.
Proof? As in links.
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