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Old 10-18-2009, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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If this is not racist I dont know what is why must we first look at the color and then talk about what they did this should be insulting to theese 2 men. it sounds like you are saying it is very rare that a black man would help anyone and there for your shock,and at the same time very proud for this very rare deed.I know this is not the case there are good men and there bad men let us not asign color that is racist
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The video may have neutralized one stereotype but it perpetuated another one. At least for me it did. LOL

That's the whole point to this thread. Blacks are heros unfairly branded as criminals (though statistically twice as likely to commit a crime as a white), and white males are tree jumpers who rape and kill little kids and cowards. Nowhere in the video is a lone or pair of white males placed in the same situation so that a fair comparison could be made and no lone black females or couples are tested either, but that does stop the OP, and most of the black respondents, from drawing a broad and convenient conclusion. Truth is what was likely left on the cutting room floor were any instances of blacks behaving in an embarrassing way like walking by without helping. If you're a white male you already understand that if someone has to be the sick pervert on TV, it's a white male. Females generally get a pass because they don't want the N.O.W. showing up and blacks will always cry racism. Facts be damned, they know they can't have blacks walk by and have a couple white guys come to the rescue, and they definitely can never, never ever have a black perpetrator.

For the record, "You're not my dad" is something a spoiled rotten brat says to his or her stepfather. If the producer had a clue, the child would have yelled out "He's not my dad" since the two involved would both know that already.
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:00 AM
 
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after seeing that video, i wished 2 things.

first, i wish that 1) race was not mentioned as an issue at all in showing the video (because it certainly did not cross the mind of the "rescuers" as they attempted to help a white child), and 2) that we could see more examples of people stepping up to the plate to help each other out. we are seeing so much bad behavior being rewarded in this country that it is truly touching to see people trying to do the right thing to help each other out for a change. i would love to see more examples like this of people doing good things! i think it is good for america to remember that there are a lot of good citizens out there!
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:25 AM
 
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I disagree MOMONKEY, no one here (especially me) said that Blacks were unfairly branded as criminals....
The point I made in starting this thread is that I generally see (young) Blacks as criminals or ppl who dont give a damn (I know sad huh?) and this video turned my stereotypes on his head.
I was shocked that the two black kids were looking to help out in that manner.

Like I've said many times I feel the video is a positive for these young blacks in the mist of all the negatives we see on tv/videos showing young blacks being violent (recent Chicago beating)

**I want to post a private message I received (ive gotten his permission) and I thought it was extremely touching**

"But I am one of your white brothers.

I've known so many black people in my life that have been so good to me, and have reached out to help me through hard times. Really, REALLY hard times. These folks have taught me the true meaning of friendship.

The suffering that black Americans have had to endure over the decades and still persevere. THERE is real strength my Brother. I'm ashamed of what my ancestors have done, but I am seeing so many positive changes, although racism still does exist.

When you're down and out, and have nowhere to turn... If you first look at the color of the hand that is reaching down to lift you up, you don't deserve the help that you are being offered.

God Bless you Brother."

Thanks!
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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Hey Rush, THIS is what happens in "Obama's America"
>>> That most people don't care enough to stop and try to help a child?
I wouldn't blame Obama solely for that. But, yes, we need to start paying more attention to each other and not just pass the buck.
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Old 10-18-2009, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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That's the whole point to this thread. Blacks are heros unfairly branded as criminals (though statistically twice as likely to commit a crime as a white), and white males are tree jumpers who rape and kill little kids and cowards. Nowhere in the video is a lone or pair of white males placed in the same situation so that a fair comparison could be made and no lone black females or couples are tested either, but that does stop the OP, and most of the black respondents, from drawing a broad and convenient conclusion. Truth is what was likely left on the cutting room floor were any instances of blacks behaving in an embarrassing way like walking by without helping. If you're a white male you already understand that if someone has to be the sick pervert on TV, it's a white male. Females generally get a pass because they don't want the N.O.W. showing up and blacks will always cry racism. Facts be damned, they know they can't have blacks walk by and have a couple white guys come to the rescue, and they definitely can never, never ever have a black perpetrator.

For the record, "You're not my dad" is something a spoiled rotten brat says to his or her stepfather. If the producer had a clue, the child would have yelled out "He's not my dad" since the two involved would both know that already.
Oh please, the media does this to everyone. If the anarchists (mostly white) riot, the mainstream media reports on it for maybe one day. If a bunch of black folks riot, the media harps on it for several months or years. There isn't some vast anti-white conspiracy going on here.

And just like whites have their stereotypes about blacks, blacks have their own stereotypes about whites. Get over it.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:25 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Just to let everyone know this is an old tape, not recent at all.

I saw this on TV a year or more ago.

But, I agree, these men did become hero's and wanted to help someone and should be commented for their actions.

It is great to see them get involved and willing to take the risk because the girl was doing the right thing by saying help me this is not my Dad.

The men should have been rewarded for their efforts and since this tape is old and I believe more then a year we never did hear anything about it.

These men are hero's for doing what they did. We need more people like them.
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Old 10-18-2009, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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That's the whole point to this thread. Blacks are heros unfairly branded as criminals (though statistically twice as likely to commit a crime as a white), and white males are tree jumpers who rape and kill little kids and cowards. Nowhere in the video is a lone or pair of white males placed in the same situation so that a fair comparison could be made and no lone black females or couples are tested either, but that does stop the OP, and most of the black respondents, from drawing a broad and convenient conclusion. Truth is what was likely left on the cutting room floor were any instances of blacks behaving in an embarrassing way like walking by without helping. If you're a white male you already understand that if someone has to be the sick pervert on TV, it's a white male. Females generally get a pass because they don't want the N.O.W. showing up and blacks will always cry racism. Facts be damned, they know they can't have blacks walk by and have a couple white guys come to the rescue, and they definitely can never, never ever have a black perpetrator.

For the record, "You're not my dad" is something a spoiled rotten brat says to his or her stepfather. If the producer had a clue, the child would have yelled out "He's not my dad" since the two involved would both know that already.
This is a good point since it's true no group of white males passed by in the video. For the record, I'm a white male and I can't stand it when people stereotype about sex crimes and whatnot. White men may commit the majority of these crimes but the key fact misunderstood is that we are not overrepresented. We commit the most because we are the largest group of males. Looking at that sexual offender database of my area I can see that whites most certainly do not have a monopoly or even a clear majority of "pervert" cases.

That said, I think the issue of bystander syndrome needs to be addressed. It's definitely not true with white males everywhere--and I suspect it has regional influence--but you cannot deny there isn't a widespread attitude of "someone else will take care of it". Why take a risk when it's the authorities' job? This nanny-state mentality must be fought and to do so there must be attention on it.
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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I dont understand Momonkey....you seem to disagree with me on Something but everything you're saying I agree with and has pointed out during this thread

What exactly are you trying to say?




Drkman: "Whites are arrested for more crimes then Blacks in general".

Half-truth, as a percentage of the population, blacks are twice as likely to commit crimes including the one you tried to smear white males with, "downloading child pornography".

Y2flyy: "I could care less about some white guy being arrested for downloading child porn, but I am constantly concerned about Crimes where innocent people (gang shootings) are killed or hurt".



Arrests for sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution)

Whites 73.5% Blacks 24.0%

Blacks are twice as like likely to be sick perverts as whites.

The video plays to a popular myth and racial slur against white males that they are disproportionately involved with sex crimes not just against females but particularly children.

That the perpetrator is a middle-aged white male is all the more acceptable since two black males are the heroes that prevent our sick white pervert from abducting the child. I don't know what your race is, but I suspect you are other than white. If you are white, I don't see why you don't get it. Anytime a door gets kicked in on the alarm commercials, the same white guy was peeking through a fence at the child he apparently wants to rape, or it's some creepy white guy who kicks in the front door so he can rape the lone female inside. The guy kicking in the door is always white and always up to something really sick. The video that we watched could never have a black man abducting a child of any race who is rescue by two young white guys. If that ever were to happen, it would never see network TV, and if I started a thread about white guys rescuing a child from a sick pervert black guy while blacks did nothing, it would be closed as soon as it went up, and I would probably get a few days in time-out to boot.

Since the Dirty Harry series, PC rules are all sick perverts are white and all heroes are black. The stats tell a different story.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html (broken link)
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Toledo
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Drkman: "Whites are arrested for more crimes then Blacks in general".

Half-truth, as a percentage of the population, blacks are twice as likely to commit crimes including the one you tried to smear white males with, "downloading child pornography".

Y2flyy: "I could care less about some white guy being arrested for downloading child porn, but I am constantly concerned about Crimes where innocent people (gang shootings) are killed or hurt".



Arrests for sex offenses (except forcible rape and prostitution)

Whites 73.5% Blacks 24.0%

Blacks are twice as like likely to be sick perverts as whites.

The video plays to a popular myth and racial slur against white males that they are disproportionately involved with sex crimes not just against females but particularly children.

That the perpetrator is a middle-aged white male is all the more acceptable since two black males are the heroes that prevent our sick white pervert from abducting the child. I don't know what your race is, but I suspect you are other than white. If you are white, I don't see why you don't get it. Anytime a door gets kicked in on the alarm commercials, the same white guy was peeking through a fence at the child he apparently wants to rape, or it's some creepy white guy who kicks in the front door so he can rape the lone female inside. The guy kicking in the door is always white and always up to something really sick. The video that we watched could never have a black man abducting a child of any race who is rescue by two young white guys. If that ever were to happen, it would never see network TV, and if I started a thread about white guys rescuing a child from a sick pervert black guy while blacks did nothing, it would be closed as soon as it went up, and I would probably get a few days in time-out to boot.

Since the Dirty Harry series, PC rules are all sick perverts are white and all heroes are black. The stats tell a different story.

Table 43 - Crime in the United States 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2008/data/table_43.html - broken link)
That's assuming that all of the sex crimes involve children. One could also assume that these sex crimes include groping and lewd acts towards other adults. What I would really like to see are sex crimes stats when the victim is under 13 or when there is a 10 year age difference between a minor and the sex offender.
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