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View Poll Results: Is if fair that we have to work on our Holy Days?
Yes 36 66.67%
No 18 33.33%
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Old 10-16-2009, 09:53 PM
 
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For some of you who do not know, Diwali is coming up.

Diwali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is a very important holiday in Hinduism and Sikhism. For Sikhs, it is tomorrow.

Guess what? My father is working. Even though he asked for it off, they said that it would count against his personal days. Same with me last year.

Is this fair? Why or why not?
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:48 PM
 
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What's "unfair " about it?

It's up to an employer to determine what holidays get observed with paid time off.

If it's that important to someone personally, take a personal day off.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:52 PM
 
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What's "unfair " about it?

It's up to an employer to determine what holidays get observed with paid time off.

If it's that important to someone personally, take a personal day off.
What do you mean "unfair"? But why do Christians get their holy day off without any loss or using their personal days?

Shouldnt people of other faiths be able to celebrate without worrying about what their employer thinks?
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:57 PM
 
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According to the wiki link, Diwali (for Hindus) is a 5 day holiday. Is it the same for the Sikh? If so, is any one day more significant over the rest?

I can understand your feelings; as a Catholic, I've had Christmas off. A few times I was called in to work on religious holidays and had to grin and bear it. Is there any way for your father to negotiate a day of Diwali off with his employer for next year, and the following years? You didn't mention if his employer is Sikh, Hindu, Christian or Jew -- is it possible that the man needs to learn more about the significance of the holiday?

If we Christians and Jews can have off on our major holidays, the same courtesy should be extended to other religions.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:58 PM
 
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If that were the case, we would be in vacation 24/7.
There is an abundance of religions in the world, and it is not possible to abide by all of them.

Even though the US is "separated" from the church, christianism is widely accepted.

Now imagine a US citizen going to India or Bangladesh and telling his boss "Hey tommorow is 4th of july, can I have a day off?," The guy would probably be laughed at then ignored.


I imagine you being a teenager or a child, so a word of advice: Never take religion personally because the same way you have a strong conviction of your religion, another person may have one of theirs.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:59 PM
 
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What do you mean "unfair"? But why do Christians get their holy day off without any loss or using their personal days?

Shouldnt people of other faiths be able to celebrate without worrying about what their employer thinks?
Are you off on any of your company's designated holidays?

Take it up with your employer. Tell them to swap, add more, what ever.

Stick you you guns of "fairness" at any cost.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:59 PM
 
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What do you mean "unfair"? But why do Christians get their holy day off without any loss or using their personal days?

Shouldnt people of other faiths be able to celebrate without worrying about what their employer thinks?

NO. All employees do not get religious holidays off. It is up to the business. If you don't like it, open your own business and make your own rules. Anther option would be to return to a country that observes and supports that religion.
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:00 AM
 
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Better yet, tell them that in order to be "fair" these must be paid holidays in November:

1 - Independence Day - Antigua & Barbuda
1 - Revolution Day - Algeria
1 - Remembrance Day - Slovenia
2 - Day of the Dead - Macau, New Zealand and Mexico
2 - Il Full Moon Poya Day - Sri Lanka
3 - Independence Day - Dominica, Panama and Ecuador
3 - Victory Day - Maldives
3 - National Day - Moldova
4 - Flag Day - Palau and Panama
4 - Constitution Day - Tonga
4 - National Day - Micronesia
5 - Guy Fawkes - United Kingdom
5 - Independence Day - El Salvador
6 - Constitution Day - Dominican Republic
7 - Revolution Day - Belarus
7 - Revolution Day - Bangladesh
7 - Thanksgiving Day – Liberia
8 - Fathers' Day - Finland, Norway and Sweden
8 - National Day - Greece
8 - Constitution Day - Micronesia
9 - Independence Day - Cambodia
10 - Independence Day - Palau
11 - Veterans Day (observed) - United States, Guam, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Switzerland
11 - Independence Day - Angola, Colombia and Poland
11 - Remembrance Day - Australia, Bermuda, Canada, Cayman Islands, French Guiana
12 - Memorial Day - Liberia
14 - National Day - Palestinian Authority
17 - President's Day - Marshall Islands
18 - Flag Day - Uzbekistan
18 - National Day - Latvia and Oman
18 - Independence Day - Morocco
19 - Discovery Day - Puerto Rico
20 - Revolution Day - Mexico
22 - Independence Day - Lebanon
25 - Thanksgiving Day - Palau
25 - Independence Day - Suriname
25 - National Day - Bosnia-Herzegovina
26 - Thanksgiving Day - United States, Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands and Micronesia
28 - Independence Day - Mauritania, Palau and Panama
28 - Republic Day - Burundi and Chad
28 - Independence Day - Albania
29 - Liberation Day - Albania
30 - Independence Day - Barbados and Yemen
30 - National Day - Benin
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:01 AM
 
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If that were the case, we would be in vacation 24/7.
There is an abundance of religions in the world, and it is not possible to abide by all of them.

Even though the US is "separated" from the church, christianism is widely accepted.

Now imagine a US citizen going to India or Bangladesh and telling his boss "Hey tommorow is 4th of july, can I have a day off?," The guy would probably be laughed at then ignored.


I imagine you being a teenager or a child, so a word of advice: Never take religion personally because the same way you have a strong conviction of your religion, another person may have one of theirs.
4th of July is NOT a religious holiday so that theory is gone.

But I do feel it should be extended to other religions. Just because Christianity is the main religion does not mean that people of other faiths shoudl work on their holy days.

Using your logic, we should not celebrate Christmas.

Would you be ok working on Christmas?
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Old 10-17-2009, 12:02 AM
 
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Better yet, tell them that in order to be "fair" these must be paid holidays in November:

1 - Independence Day - Antigua & Barbuda
1 - Revolution Day - Algeria
1 - Remembrance Day - Slovenia
2 - Day of the Dead - Macau, New Zealand and Mexico
2 - Il Full Moon Poya Day - Sri Lanka
3 - Independence Day - Dominica, Panama and Ecuador
3 - Victory Day - Maldives
3 - National Day - Moldova
4 - Flag Day - Palau and Panama
4 - Constitution Day - Tonga
4 - National Day - Micronesia
5 - Guy Fawkes - United Kingdom
5 - Independence Day - El Salvador
6 - Constitution Day - Dominican Republic
7 - Revolution Day - Belarus
7 - Revolution Day - Bangladesh
7 - Thanksgiving Day – Liberia
8 - Fathers' Day - Finland, Norway and Sweden
8 - National Day - Greece
8 - Constitution Day - Micronesia
9 - Independence Day - Cambodia
10 - Independence Day - Palau
11 - Veterans Day (observed) - United States, Guam, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands and Switzerland
11 - Independence Day - Angola, Colombia and Poland
11 - Remembrance Day - Australia, Bermuda, Canada, Cayman Islands, French Guiana
12 - Memorial Day - Liberia
14 - National Day - Palestinian Authority
17 - President's Day - Marshall Islands
18 - Flag Day - Uzbekistan
18 - National Day - Latvia and Oman
18 - Independence Day - Morocco
19 - Discovery Day - Puerto Rico
20 - Revolution Day - Mexico
22 - Independence Day - Lebanon
25 - Thanksgiving Day - Palau
25 - Independence Day - Suriname
25 - National Day - Bosnia-Herzegovina
26 - Thanksgiving Day - United States, Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands and Micronesia
28 - Independence Day - Mauritania, Palau and Panama
28 - Republic Day - Burundi and Chad
28 - Independence Day - Albania
29 - Liberation Day - Albania
30 - Independence Day - Barbados and Yemen
30 - National Day - Benin
You are mixing it up. These are national holidays. NOT religious.
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