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Old 10-20-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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In the same poll that shows the majority want a public option comes some interesting data. Only 20% of respondents identified themselves as Republican, the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983.

Before Democrats get too happy about the 20%, keep in mind that 42% of respondents identify themselves with Independents, and only 33% consider themselves Democrats. It's time to buck the two-party system.

I find it interesting that the Republicans haven't gained any traction, despite their constant attacks against Obama. The Republicans need to come up with legitimate reasons why those on the fence should vote for them. What's in it for us? If they can do that then they can be more confident in 2010. Otherwise they're going to struggle to takeover the House. We'll also have to see how Obama and the Democrats handle the economy and Afghanistan these next few months.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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washingtonpost.com

In the same poll that shows the majority want a public option comes some interesting data. Only 20% of respondents identified themselves as Republican, the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983.

Before Democrats get too happy about the 20%, keep in mind that 42% of respondents identify themselves with Independents, and only 33% consider themselves Democrats. It's time to buck the two-party system.

I find it interesting that the Republicans haven't gained any traction, despite their constant attacks against Obama. The Republicans need to come up with legitimate reasons why those on the fence should vote for them. What's in it for us? If they can do that then they can be more confident in 2010. Otherwise they're going to struggle to takeover the House. We'll also have to see how Obama and the Democrats handle the economy and Afghanistan these next few months.
Too bad it isn't easy for a third party candidate to make it into Congress.
Both parties are corrupt. There are very few people in Congress who have the people's interest at heart.
The only name that comes to mind most of the time is Kucinich.

A lot of people in Congress are slaves to the rich and they try not to vote in ways that will hurt their corporate masters.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:44 AM
 
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washingtonpost.com

In the same poll that shows the majority want a public option comes some interesting data. Only 20% of respondents identified themselves as Republican, the lowest single number in Post-ABC polls since 1983.

Before Democrats get too happy about the 20%, keep in mind that 42% of respondents identify themselves with Independents, and only 33% consider themselves Democrats. It's time to buck the two-party system.

I find it interesting that the Republicans haven't gained any traction, despite their constant attacks against Obama. The Republicans need to come up with legitimate reasons why those on the fence should vote for them. What's in it for us? If they can do that then they can be more confident in 2010. Otherwise they're going to struggle to takeover the House. We'll also have to see how Obama and the Democrats handle the economy and Afghanistan these next few months.
While I agree that the GOP needs to make a solid case in order to sell its platform, I believe Obama and Democrats are doing a pretty good job of making the case for them - which is - that checks and balances are needed in the halls of Congress. I don't think its all that important that the GOP "takeover the House," but instead, its important that they merely gain seats, especially in the Senate, in order to force Democrats to play nice. It's amazing how cordial the two parties can be when they all of a sudden need support from the opposite side of the isle to get anything done.

Personally, I believe that Democrats will look back at this time in history and see how badly they squandered a supermajority and all the benefits that come with it.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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While I agree that the GOP needs to make a solid case in order to sell its platform, I believe Obama and Democrats are doing a pretty good job of making the case for them - which is - that checks and balances are needed in the halls of Congress. I don't think its all that important that the GOP "takeover the House," but instead, its important that they merely gain seats, especially in the Senate, in order to force Democrats to play nice. It's amazing how cordial the two parties can be when they all of a sudden need support from the opposite side of the isle.
Just off the top of my head the last 2 times of prolonged propserity came during times of gridlock.

Do you find that to be accurate?
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:46 AM
 
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Republicans stopped being republicans in Bush's second term. They along with the other side of the isle are only out for themselves.

Hopefully like Purple said, a third party will come into being. It will be a tough fight though.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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Too bad it isn't easy for a third party candidate to make it into Congress.
Both parties are corrupt. There are very few people in Congress who have the people's interest at heart.
The only name that comes to mind most of the time is Kucinich.

A lot of people in Congress are slaves to the rich and they try not to vote in ways that will hurt their corporate masters.
Isn't Kucinich a Dem.?

Bernie Sanders is the indie. MAN!
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:51 AM
 
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Just off the top of my head the last 2 times of prolonged propserity came during times of gridlock.

Do you find that to be accurate?
Yes, that seems to be what I recall as well. Such gridlock would seem to indicate that less meddling by government equals a smoother running operation.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Isn't Kucinich a Dem.?

Bernie Sanders is the indie. MAN!
Yes Kucinich is a Dem and as I said earlier there are VERY FEW in Congress who care about the people. He is one of those few.

From what I'm reading about Bernie Sanders, he looks like a very good man. He's right up there with Kucinich as one of the few good seeds in Congress.
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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While I agree that the GOP needs to make a solid case in order to sell its platform, I believe Obama and Democrats are doing a pretty good job of making the case for them - which is - that checks and balances are needed in the halls of Congress. I don't think its all that important that the GOP "takeover the House," but instead, its important that they merely gain seats, especially in the Senate, in order to force Democrats to play nice. It's amazing how cordial the two parties can be when they all of a sudden need support from the opposite side of the isle to get anything done.

Personally, I believe that Democrats will look back at this time in history and see how badly they squandered a supermajority and all the benefits that come with it.
Other than running against all things Obama/Democrats, what do you think Republicans should run on? What policies?
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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20% is only the number of those who are willing to admit to being a Republican. The birthers, teabaggers and deathers may have frightened some people who are Republican into saying "Independent" but when time comes to vote it will be straight ticket Republican. Likewise a lot of the Independents* in the teabag, birther, deather movements are not going to vote Democratic.

*Not real Independents, just Republicans who are afraid to be truthful
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