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Because this is a typical leftist technique. This whole health care push is something they've taken and overblown into a national crisis that didn't exist. Instead of fixing a few things here and there to fix a system that for the most part works well, they create a crisis so they can completely blow up the system, take control and tack on a few agendas in the process.
And they sell it to people by creating these sob stories.
Well, that was a crock.
Those noble rightists have to put up with so much, poor babies. Leftists creating a national health crisis that doesn't exist.
Those erstwhile right-wingers trying to fix things in a working system, while those darn leftists want to chuck the whole gosh-darn system.
Boo-hoo.
The majority of Americans a year ago thought that the health-care system was in trouble, and nothing has changed. It's not a system that for the most part works well. It's a system that works well for a few, but doesn't work well for the majority of people in this country.
When the majority of bankruptcies in this country are due to medical bills, the system isn't working.
When the majority of those bankruptcies occur to families that had insurance, the system isn't working.
When people can't even get insurance who are healthy and working, the system isn't working.
Those mean, bad lefties aren't creating the stories. Insurance companies are creating the stories when they deny coverage and refuse to pay claims they are responsible for.
If your best answer to that is to try to blame the left, and to say that this is a problem the right can fix, then your answers are inadequate. Come up with better answers.
Again, it's a horrible story, but there are horrible stories every day that can be taken and exploited to try and gain support for any cause in the world.
Policy should be based on common sense and not emotions. Common sense dictates that you cannot put a universal health care system into place and have it function in the peoples' best interests.
The PEOPLE will be the ones hurt by this stupid system. Unfortunately a lot of them are just too stupid to see it.
Those noble rightists have to put up with so much, poor babies. Leftists creating a national health crisis that doesn't exist.
Those erstwhile right-wingers trying to fix things in a working system, while those darn leftists want to chuck the whole gosh-darn system.
Boo-hoo.
The majority of Americans a year ago thought that the health-care system was in trouble, and nothing has changed. It's not a system that for the most part works well. It's a system that works well for a few, but doesn't work well for the majority of people in this country.
When the majority of bankruptcies in this country are due to medical bills, the system isn't working.
When the majority of those bankruptcies occur to families that had insurance, the system isn't working.
When people can't even get insurance who are healthy and working, the system isn't working.
Those mean, bad lefties aren't creating the stories. Insurance companies are creating the stories when they deny coverage and refuse to pay claims they are responsible for.
If your best answer to that is to try to blame the left, and to say that this is a problem the right can fix, then your answers are inadequate. Come up with better answers.
Here's a link. Read it and weep. Because it is sad. It is a sad commentary on the health-care system in this country and it's real economic impact. And it's sad when people get so wrapped up in partisan politics that they want to pretend that the facts aren't factual.
The majority of Americans a year ago thought that the health-care system was in trouble, and nothing has changed. It's not a system that for the most part works well. It's a system that works well for a few, but doesn't work well for the majority of people in this country.
This article in the Washington Times shows something different. It says that almost 90% of Americans are satisfied with their health care, including 70% of the uninsured.
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When the majority of bankruptcies in this country are due to medical bills, the system isn't working.
This sounds so terrible, but it's irrelevant. It doesn't tell us what percentage of people with health care insurance had emergencies that resulted in their bancruptcy, which is the number that would be important. There are almost 300 million poeple in the United states. If 20 people went bankrupt, that would be an astoundingly low number, but if 12 of them went bancrupt due to medical issues, your quoted statistic makes it seem like a national emergency.
Last edited by Bill Keegan; 10-21-2009 at 03:49 PM..
Even closer to Nazism; eliminate the infirm.....under the guise of profit margin....healthcare for profit in america is a disgrace, as any physician who treats cancer patients....
This article in the Washington Times shows something different. It says that almost 90% of Americans are satisfied with their health care, including 70% of the uninsured.
This sounds so terrible, but it's irrelevant. It doesn't tell us what percentage of people with health care insurance had emergencies that resulted in their bancruptcy, which is the number that would be important. There are almost 300 million poeple in the United states. If 20 people went bankrupt, that would be an astoundingly low number, but if 12 of them went bancrupt due to medical issues, your quoted statistic makes it seem like a national emergency.
Using 300 million and then going to 20 people seems a bit like a spin tactic. 1.5 million people declared bankruptcy this past year. That doesn't seem like much compared to 300 million. But those 1.5 million people actually represent more than 1.5 million. Dependent children don't declare bankruptcy, but they certainly are affected when their parents declare bankruptcy. The study suggests that over 60% of the bankruptcies were caused by medical costs. and 75% of the people who blame medical costs had insurance. Many, many Americans do not possess the financial resources to deal with unanticipated health care costs. They cannot afford to get sick. And that may not make it a national emergency (did I argue that?), but it doesn't support the conclusion that we have a health care system that "works well for the most part." And that was what I was rebutting.
Bringing this back to topic, a healthy woman able to afford insurance was denied coverage because she was raped a while ago, and had an HIV test administered as a precaution. Maybe a denial in this particular situation is rare and unusual. But denial of coverage is not rare and unusual. And given the statistics I've cited, if you risk financial ruin when you have insurance, just how much more precarious is your situation if you cannot obtain insurance, even when you're healthy? Our health-care system is not working well, and to pretend that it is is not participating in the debate, it's burying your head in the sand. Anecdotal evidence might not be statistically relevant, but that doesn't mean such anecdotes are invalid or fraudulent.
If you discover you have cancer tomorrow, do you really know what the financial impact will be on your family? Do you blindly have faith that the insurance company will do what it's promised, and what happens when you become one of the anecdotes?
This is an example of Republican family values, people. They will all be for protecting the insurance companies. Never the People.
I like insurance companies for the most part. They employ average citizens like me, take much of the risk out of everyday life and make economic expansion possible by securing investments that would never be made without insurance. Having said that, I actually prefer health savings accounts to health insurance policies since, for most things, the account holder is the consumer and, by definition, a bargain hunter. I'm not at all surprised that the Democrats haven't mentioned these as an alternative to a government plan since the whole purpose of government run health care is to create a huge bait and switch Ponzi scheme with which to rob average Americans of our income and independence while funding their electioneering efforts and rewarding supporters (see SEIU).
Lol! Health savings accts-MetLife sold that scam in 1990 to employees, all it does is take paltry amounts out of your paycheck....back surgery costs 10k, chemo costs over that and your insurance can just pull out if they don't want to undewrite a risk....people who say ins. In america is fine have never had to care for an elderly parent or sick child.
its a good hook, connecting rape with universal health. i would address those 2 issues separate.
getting medical coverage for rape victims is important a medical issue if nothing else.
as to universal its a very hot topic but its not reality yet.
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scary...
