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Exactly. But I am a labeled a communist, bcs I care about how people are treated, and people are fed up with CEOs jetting in for bailout money from GM,etc.
oooh, I get it.. You think you care more about people than they care about themselves. How exactly does that work? Do you keep a database of all citizens, what they make, how their benefits are structured, how they spend their money? Please.. If I'm willing to work for a CEO that makes a billion a year, thats my business. As an employee, I can choose to work for what they pay or I can choose not to. Whats it any of your business what I decide to work for?
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Its pathetic and not what America stood for, what my father fought in the war for, when did the far-right incorporate big business, lobbyists and PAC's with doing good for America? Disgusting.
Thats EXACTLY what people fought in wars for, the right to work for who you want to work for, to make what you feel you are entitled to make, to determine what type of industry you want to go into, and not be told by the government or those who dont even know you. I think your dad would be disappointed in the fact their child turned into a communist..
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Bank of America rapes and pillages their customers with usury, then gets bailed out, then some loser gets 50 million....This is just wrong.
Boo hoo hoo.. Start your own bank then.. or leave them.. You did, fantastic.. So stop crying about it because thats how it works. Dont like how they do business, you leave them.. but I guess you would rather not have been bothered to be inconvenienced by moving to another bank to do business, having the government dictate to banks would be so much better in your mind..
I was like "Sir. I dont know how much YOU make sitting here. But I go to college and have a job that does not pay anywhere as well as YOUR job does. A couple of "fees" makes a difference."
He did not have much to say after. Go figure, huh?
The teller probably makes about $9 an hour, and you think you told them off by telling them you dont make anywhere near as much as they do...
You cant read the link to see that managers, regardless of their degress make $80K + a year? First liberals complain that people arent paid a living wage, now you guys are complaining that they are.
Um, I was responding to a part somewhere around in the middle of this
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Flipping burgers make $8 so the CEO, according to you can make say $800K, but a CEO of a company where they require massive college degrees to work there, say at a hospital, can make $4,000,000. I would think that the CEO at McDonalds would have a much more difficult job than one working at a hospital, but here you are, telling me the hospital CEO can make more because they pay their employees more, with vastly different qualifications (doctors vs burger flippers) to obtain employment. And liberals pretend they want to be "fair".. ooh good one.
oh - this part
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but a CEO of a company where they require massive college degrees to work there, say at a hospital, can make $4,000,000. I would think that the CEO at McDonalds would have a much more difficult job than one working at a hospital, but here you are,
couldnt even make sense of it except for the "massive degrees" part, and that's what I responded to.
Is this an example of petty jealousy for people, simply because they make more money then you?
BTW, will the 0bama admin cap the pay of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac executives too? those fools are crying for even more money.
For the sake of argument, let's say that Morgan Stanley fired some of its executives who were responsible for mismanagement, are we asking them to punish the newly hired executives who are showing a profit now, to accept a 90% pay cut?
Is this an example of petty jealousy for people, simply because they make more money then you?
BTW, will the 0bama admin cap the pay of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac executives too? those fools are crying for even more money.
For the sake of argument, let's say that Morgan Stanley fired some of its executives who were responsible for mismanagement, are we asking them to punish the newly hired executives who are showing a profit now, to accept a 90% pay cut?
So a hospital with a yearly net operating budget of $5,000,000 should be able to pay their CEO $4,000,000 (50 times average employee pay) but McDonalds, with a yearly net operating budget of $4,313,000,000, should only be allowed to make $832,000? Really, thats your argument? That those with less net operating budgets should pay more?
How about authors, how do you think they should profit from a book? 50 times the books cover price? (i.e. $1250 for a $30 book?)
How about people who give speeches, what do you consider "fair"?(Clintons hundred million dollars since leaving the White House for example).
Do you think people like me who own properties and invest in the market should have our profits capped also? I bet you think we should return all profits to the tenants after we have reached what you deem to be a "fair quota"...
And people wonder why liberals are called communist lately, your posting is a prime example of such..
Use your common sense please, if you have any. The ratio that exists in many financial institutions was 500-1, clearly out of line, and 50-1 I think would be much more in line, but still excessive. The ration is of course dependent on the company, and many now pay less than 50-1. My point is that a ratio of average employee to CEO pay ties the two together so we don't see the wildly out of line CEO pay. I think Obama is doing a good job of addressing that issue.
For what reasons, is it your OPINION (not fact) that this ratio is "out of line"?
At some point a cancer becomes a malignancy and must be removed before it spreads. The insane episode that unfolded last year when Hank The Skank Paulson practically said..."give me a blank check or else" was indeed insane! What happens next time they want to socialize their losses? They demand the first born of every family? Enough of this crap! Nobody deserves that much money when they have done nothing worthy of earning it. Witnessing this kind of gluttony is sickening. Why doesn't Wall Street just put up flashing neon signs on their financial institutions and have floor shows after dinner? You want to gamble? You lose, [MOD CUT]
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