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Old 10-26-2009, 05:50 PM
 
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"Majority Leader Harry Reid has announced that the Senate version of health care reform will include a public option with an opt-out, which would allow states to not participate in the government insurance program. The White House reportedly favored a trigger instead, which is probably just a sneaky way to kill the measure altogether.

"But CNN quotes a White House official who said the president would support Reid’s more ambitious effort."

Truthdig - Ear to the Ground - Senate Bill Will Include Public Option

Reid: Senate Bill Will Include Government-Backed 'Public Option' - Political News - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/26/reid-offers-details-public-plan-health-care/?test=latestnews - broken link)
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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'The "opt out" proposal would set up a national insurance plan with government seed money and be run by a private, not-for-profit board. Under the proposal, states would have to prove they can provide comparable coverage in order to exit out of the federal plan. The plan would also negotiate rates with providers just like private insurance companies do, presumably keeping premiums on a level playing field with the private industry.
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'Reid expressed confidence Monday that the new Senate bill, which is a merger of the health care bills passed by two separate Senate panels, would have the "support of my caucus" once the Congressional Budget Office puts a price tag on the proposal.'

Reid: Senate Bill Will Include Government-Backed 'Public Option' - Political News - FOXNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/26/reid-offers-details-public-plan-health-care/?test=latestnews - broken link)
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This is a good start!
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sparsely populated states would probably be better opt'ing out.

I hope Texas does NOT opt out. We have lots and lots and lots and lots of Hispanics who tend to have lots and lots of kids. I can see a major state tax burden if they do opt out. Financially it's better for Texas to throw them in a Fed program.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:17 PM
 
Location: between Ath,GR & Mia,FL...
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Let's see if that PO turns to be a beauty or a beast.
The essense is in the details.
That legislation is a slow train.
Come January,we will know...
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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The States can "opt out" of many federal programs.....but they don't because they would lose BILLIONS in federal money if they don't do what the federal government forces them to do.

Welcome to the Coalition for the Future American Worker
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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It sounds like a compromise with the insurance companies, where certain red states can "opt out" for some crap that is run by the insurance industry. It means that there will still be pockets of uninterrupted insurance company profits and restricted or expensive choices will be the only ones available for those unfortunate people who still will be unable to afford it.

They need to set an earning ceiling, and if you fall below it you are entitled to the public option and no one can "opt you out" of it
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It sounds like a compromise with the insurance companies, where certain red states can "opt out" for some crap that is run by the insurance industry. It means that there will still be pockets of uninterrupted insurance company profits and restricted or expensive choices will be the only ones available for those unfortunate people who still will be unable to afford it.

They need to set an earning ceiling, and if you fall below it you are entitled to the public option and no one can "opt you out" of it
I think that was the gist of the "trigger plan" that got Snowe onboard but they seemed to have thrown that one out.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:34 PM
 
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The States can "opt out" of many federal programs.....but they don't because they would lose BILLIONS in federal money if they don't do what the federal government forces them to do.

Welcome to the Coalition for the Future American Worker
Let's see. Opt and force????
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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The States can "opt out" of many federal programs.....but they don't because they would lose BILLIONS in federal money if they don't do what the federal government forces them to do.

Welcome to the Coalition for the Future American Worker
And some , like Minnesota , will NOT opt out...or Republicans will be CRUSHED in 2012.... so it's a win/win.
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