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Old 10-31-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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China, Mexico, India, the Middle East.

The government will bring in thousands of cheap doctors -- just like everything else -- they flat out told us we would have to compete with the third world and so we are.
Those countries resent the raiding of their medical people- which is why the USA quit shipping in so many Phillipino nurses and Canada has cut back on Indian MDs.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I personally would like to see medical school subsidized, like it is in many other countries.

Under a single payer system, the income disparities between specialties and primary care physicians would shrink.

If we can't get all of medical school subsidized, I would settle for subsidizing the education of primary care physicians and the government helping them with the rent of their practice, hiring staff, etc.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:12 PM
 
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Is there a real need for more medical schools? By that I mean, are there qualified applicants who cannot attend med school because there are no openings? The nursing shortage is, in part, caused by too little faculty. As a result, many schools have far more applicants for the nursing program than they can handle. I hadn't heard that this was an issue with medical schools as well.

I agree that we'll be looking at a shortage of docs. In Maine, especially northern Maine, many come in on visas, especially from India/Pakistan. We've also started to see some primary docs accept cash only, or no Mainecare patients.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Is there a real need for more medical schools? By that I mean, are there qualified applicants who cannot attend med school because there are no openings? The nursing shortage is, in part, caused by too little faculty. As a result, many schools have far more applicants for the nursing program than they can handle. I hadn't heard that this was an issue with medical schools as well.

I agree that we'll be looking at a shortage of docs. In Maine, especially northern Maine, many come in on visas, especially from India/Pakistan. We've also started to see some primary docs accept cash only, or no Mainecare patients.
It's possible. Lots of medical schools have to limit their class size because they have to keep the ratio of faculty:students low to ensure quality.

They want to increase the amount of students they can accept BUT they have to also ensure quality at the same time, which means they need small class sizes.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I do believe that the Dr. shortage will impact the public acceptance of the health care reform measures once they become law. When people have to get insurance and start calling around for a PCP and find they can't get one there could be a major public backlash. Right now finding a PCP if you're new to the system is like trying to find a good, honest mechanic. Imagine the crush after the reforms become law.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:22 PM
 
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People may be surprised when their PCP refuses to participate in the government-run program where payments to providers may well be based upon Medicare fees.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I do believe that the Dr. shortage will impact the public acceptance of the health care reform measures once they become law. When people have to get insurance and start calling around for a PCP and find they can't get one there could be a major public backlash. Right now finding a PCP if you're new to the system is like trying to find a good, honest mechanic. Imagine the crush after the reforms become law.
Of course it would have been nice if those in Washington could have thought of this before they started introducing these bills.

I think there will be a large amount of people wanting to see a doctor in the beginning but I think it will begin to taper off.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think if UHC goes through, you'll see an even greater shortage of doctors.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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People may be surprised when their PCP refuses to participate in the government-run program where payments to providers may well be based upon Medicare fees.
And that, too. People are already refusing medicare and medicaid.
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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People may be surprised when their PCP refuses to participate in the government-run program where payments to providers may well be based upon Medicare fees.
Some may also be surprised when their doctor refuses to take them because they don't like the private insurance company they chose.

A lot of doctors hate having to fight with insurance companies.
Thus the reason I'm sure some doctors have stopped taking patients with insurance and started taking cash-only patients.
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