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Is that what you said to defend Bush when he was criticized after the 9-11 attacks or Katrina?
Or were you jumping quickly onto the Bush-bashing bandwagon yourself and now just don't like that what goes around comes around?
Can we PLEASE get over this "but they did it, so now it's payback time" attitude already??
It wasn't "right" when people did it to Bush, it's not "right" when people do it to Obama. (In case you're wondering, I disagreed with many of Bush's policies but had respect for the fact that he held the office of POTUS).
All the finger-pointing over every silly thing (he didn't say something fast enough, he didn't use the right tone, he didn't say what I would have said) just take away from people's valid dissent about the bigger issues facing our country.
You want to protest Obama's policies? Go for it, it is your right.
Nit-picking everything that does or doesn't come out of his mouth? Give me a break.
The events at Ft. Hood were a tragedy. Why don't we spend some time worrying about the victims and their loved ones and supporting the law enforcement authorities in bringing the murderer to justice?
Last edited by eastwesteastagain; 11-06-2009 at 11:01 AM..
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Christian ideology, dogma, call it what you will, does not promote violence. Are there Christians who are violent? Sure. Are there Christians who are misguided or who do terrible things? Absolutely. But, violence is not a bedrock of Christian ideology. There is no "infidel" to kill.
Maybe not today. Does the Crusades ring any bells?
There was a reason back in the days of WWII that we didn't allow German Nazis into our military, it wasn't because of their race or anything like that but because of their beliefs. Now that we're politically correct, if Al Queda wants to send it's guys into our military, we feel we must approve.
Better check under your bed, there may be a terrorist lurking there.
What about all those Christians in American prisons?
Nearly every single murder and rape in this country is committed by someone who was born Christian and who believes in Jesus.
So is it okay for me to say "all Christians are evil and I don't trust a Christian because there are at least 500,000 of them in our prisons"?
I highly doubt that. Most people in prison are not religious at all, most were not going to church on a regular basis or reading the Bible much at all. You can bet most in prison are quite anti-Christian in all their beliefs.
Get a life people. Try worring about those that survived and the families, your critic of the President is nothing more than your hate overpowering your brain, and you prove it by posting threads such as this for all to read. You guys just keep whining away over nothing, as usual, pitiful.
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Christian ideology, dogma, call it what you will, does not promote violence. Are there Christians who are violent? Sure. Are there Christians who are misguided or who do terrible things? Absolutely. But, violence is not a bedrock of Christian ideology. There is no "infidel" to kill.
Explain the Inquisition.
Explain the Salem Witch Trials.
Explain the IRA.
Explain the Crusades.
Explain the Holy Roman Empire that used religion as a way to spread military conquest.
Explain the Conquistadors.
Explain the KKK (which uses Christian scripture).
Sorry, Christianity has as much blood on its hands as Islam.
Anyone who follows a religion religiously is dangerous and usually not sane.
Secular people who follow religious traditions are okay, but the people who think that "God guides and protects me" are scary and dangerous. I am just as frightened by the Westboro Baptist Church (or "The Rock" in San Diego) where they promote hate and bigotry as I am by Arabs.
I've actually seen Arab terrorism first hand. I was in a market in Tel Aviv when it was bombed in 1997, I was cut by flying rock (not very badly, but still...), I saw people dying with my own two eyes.
But I've also been to London and seen what they did in response to CHRISTIAN terrorism that plagued them to the point where they've become the most surveiled society in the world.
I don't think the same could have been said of Hitler and Germany at all.
Most aren't terrorists, and most don't donate money to jihadist causes. I don't think it's un-Christian to help families who have lost members that were seduced by extremist rhetoric and ideologies. I think it's a show of kindness to help people who have been devastated by a loss.
As for segregationists, in the South or elsewhere, there were many people, some of whom were not white, who believed that segregation was moral, legal and right. And the highest courts in the land upheld their beliefs. That we have progressed beyond such beliefs is a testament to the adaptability of humans, the ability to learn and to empathize.
One day, that same adaptability will allow Americans to put aside their distrust and misgivings about the Islamic faith, and to perceive all the things we have in common with people of different faiths, rather than dwelling on the differences.
I think as time goes on, people will learn to be more distrustful of it.
Islamics don't really hide their intentions -- we just choose to believe they don't really mean them or think them. Most Muslims believe there can only be peace on earth when everyone is united in Islam, when everyone believes the same and all follow Sharia law.
Muslims really don't believe in freedom of religion -- there is not one Islamic nation that promotes that.
Ask the Palestinians who the terrorists are, and they'll say it's the Jews and Christians who stole their land.
Go to Amsterdam or Copenhagen, they have LOTS of Muslims and no terrorism. Go to Belfast a few years ago and they had LOTS of Terrorism and no Muslims.
Your prejudices are very clear. Maybe this guy is just someone who went crazy. Most people who go into the Phsychological medicines do so because they want to find something out about themselves. This guy dealt with PTSD on a daily basis, he probably saw and heard some messed up stuff and when he got word he'd be shipped to Iraq, he snapped. To automatically say "He's a terrorist" because he has a Muslim name is highly offensive to the 99.999% of Muslims who are peaceful. Your generalizations are no different than saying "all blacks are criminals" or "all jews are money-grubbing" or "all Mexicans are illegal aliens"...you are offending many people and you are also showing an irrational hatred for people of a certain background...
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