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Old 11-08-2009, 12:55 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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Originally Posted by seven of nine View Post
I am willing to listen to anyone who can tell me how this will make my life better. I have always looked for the job with health benifits, often covered the entire family at great expense. How will my life differ?

It won't. It won't make your life better, or worse. If you already have insurance, you have nothing to adapt to. Corporations don;t even have the option to switch to public insurance yet.

The purpose of the reform is to insure the uninsured. If you are already covered, it will affect you NOT AT ALL.

In other words, all your whining is about preventing other hard-working citizens from being covered. I hope you're proud of yourself.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:00 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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No .. only half the nation put this man in office and with a very slim 6% margin at that. Voted in by mostly the young and unconcerned.

He made a lot of things perfectly clear, and has so far reneged on all of those things.
First of all, your statistics are patently wrong.
Dissecting the 2008 Electorate: Most Diverse in U.S. History - Pew Research Center

Second of all, even if your stats were correct, they are internally inconsistent: if they were "unconcerned," they wouldn't have bothered voting
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:07 AM
 
Location: NW Montana
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Originally Posted by Mearth View Post
It won't. It won't make your life better, or worse. If you already have insurance, you have nothing to adapt to. Corporations don;t even have the option to switch to public insurance yet.

The purpose of the reform is to insure the uninsured. If you are already covered, it will affect you NOT AT ALL.

In other words, all your whining is about preventing other hard-working citizens from being covered. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Not sure that I have been whining, just asking questions, frankly my insurance bill is difficult to pay, that is why I have been asking how this will pertain to me personally. No flame here.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:08 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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You sure about that? Mandatory coverage-heck of a lot of new customers for the insurance companies. BigPharm? Sweet deal they brokered with Obama...guaranteed profits.

Hospitals? They lose, big time. As cuts to Medicare start, the already low and late payments will explode into a fiscal nightmare.

Hate to clue you in...we all lost tonight.
It's called collective bargaining... purchasing power... better deals for everyone.
Look it up.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:09 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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Not sure that I have been whining, just asking questions, frankly my insurance bill is difficult to pay, that is why I have been asking how this will pertain to me personally. No flame here.
Fair enough.

I got caught up in the arguing - I apologize.

My guess is that - unfortunately - it won't ease your burden just yet. Assuming you have insurance through your employer.

However, if you have individual insurance, you might have a more affordable option in the near future.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Boise
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this is great news... while this particular bill isn't spectacular.. it is a step.. knocking the insurance companies on their ass opens the door for further discussion regarding a STONG public option in the near future...
given the restrictions placed upon the insurance companies it will make it really hard for them to make the sorts of profits they've been making by denying coverage, raising rates on the sick.
Capitalistic healthcare has cared NOTHING for the doctor patient relationship.. it essentially makes us all unequal in their eyes and the eyes of the doctors based upon who can pay/who can't.. and those who can pay into those who are sick/those who are not.
Bottom line is.. we will all be sick someday.. and a public system that treats everything and everyone equally will be next!
Progress is like pulling teeth in america.. but this vote shows that it can and does happen.. I'm very pleased...
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:13 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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I didn't realize that riding around in an SUV all day checking out who was going in and out of the welfare office and what people were spending their food stamps on were such hard work. Ohio must pay for strange things.
Ohio is the armpit of U.S. civilization. They have the worst human rights laws/enforcement, and the worst animal welfare laws/enforcement.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:15 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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Do you know anyone personally who has been denied HC? I doubt it.
I was denied healthcare while gainfully employed. So bite me.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:16 AM
 
Location: James Island, SC
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I know this. You know this. The insurance and drug industry lobby knows this.

That is why they are fighting so hard against it.

They know the public option sets the framework for the Government to use it's huge buying power to leverage for lower drug prices, doctors fees, eliminating excess adminstration costs, etc.

That's why countries that have this fully functioning system in place spend less than 60% of what we do on health care and COVER EVERYONE.

In fact the only people that do not know this are right wing lemmings.
WIN!
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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I was denied healthcare while gainfully employed. Bite me.
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