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Old 11-11-2009, 11:54 AM
 
Location: NJ
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mr. cpa- there is no need to join us in the debate. we are just having some fun.

But I do have a suggestion & and question for you.

Do you need an assistant for your practice? I hope you do. If you do, I wholeheartedly recommend that you offer CaptainKangarooNJ a position as " AdVOCATE for the RICH". he would be a good cheerleader for your rich clients.

His dream is to keep voting republican until he retires. he believes that by voting republican, he will magically become rich like Rush Limbaugh and Sean hannity.

he will fight for them with his own meager allowance. He will even do tumbling acts for their kids entertainment. He will walk barefeet to Washington DC to protest democrats who tax the wealthy.

just a friendly suggestion for you.

I fully recommend & salute the Captain for any job openings you may have.
i appreciate the position. i think a more appropriate title would be "Advocate for the Working Americans." all of us who work are taxpayers, and all of us should have more money for ourselves after taxes are taken out. every penny that goes to the government is a penny wasted.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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i appreciate the position. i think a more appropriate title would be "Advocate for the Working Americans." all of us who work are taxpayers, and all of us should have more money for ourselves after taxes are taken out. every penny that goes to the government is a penny wasted.

You like using the Internet right??? Well the TCP/IP protocol was created with government money by the government. I would hardly call those pennies wasted. I think that also shows that the government can be innovative as well.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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No one is losing sleep over the super wealthy being taxed. The bottom line is we all are being taxed to death.
Just because someone is republican does not mean they agree or endorse whack jobs like Hannity etc nor do all democrats endorse the socialist programs like national health care..think about it do you really want the government in charge of your health care?

There are extremists in both parties.

The win by Christie imo was not due to him being some guy with a magic wand that is going to fix everything, I think it was more of a disatisfaction in the way the state was run the past four years, I think 4 years ago Corizine bit off far more then he could chew and I'm not so sure that Christie won't find himself in the same boat 4 years down the road.

It's going to take someone with a huge brass set that is not easily intimidated...who that may be I have not a clue
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You like using the Internet right??? Well the TCP/IP protocol was created with government money by the government. I would hardly call those pennies wasted. I think that also shows that the government can be innovative as well.
so there would be no internet if the government didnt take our tax dollars from us?

its like i said before, the government takes social security out of your paycheck for your entire working life. then when they give you a little back before you die, you are supposed to be grateful.

mikey, im not gateful for the pathetic return the government has given me for my money. the money would be invested much more efficiently in the private sector.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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so there would be no internet if the government didnt take our tax dollars from us?

its like i said before, the government takes social security out of your paycheck for your entire working life. then when they give you a little back before you die, you are supposed to be grateful.

mikey, im not gateful for the pathetic return the government has given me for my money. the money would be invested much more efficiently in the private sector.
So you got a pathetic return? Again I think the internet is one hell of a return. How about GPS technology?

If you have a problem with S.S. thats fine, I can see the argument. but to say every penny is wasted in the goverment is just not true.

Regarding TCP/IP, other private companies created routed protocols, but none of them where nearly as advanced as TCP/IP. Not everything the Goverment does is bad.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:20 PM
 
Location: NJ
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So you got a pathetic return? Again I think the internet is one hell of a return. How about GPS technology?

If you have a problem with S.S. thats fine, I can see the argument. but to say every penny is wasted in the goverment is just not true.

Regarding TCP/IP, other private companies created routed protocols, but none of them where nearly as advanced as TCP/IP. Not everything the Goverment does is bad.
the problem with SS goes for every area of government. its just a simpler example to demonstrate (despite the fact that most people dont understand what a terrible program it is).

the internet is great. did we really need the government for it? i dont think so. you give the government too much credit. how many billions did they waste shooting something in mars recently to see if there was any water there? how much does it cost to maintain huge amounts of soldiers in iraq and afghanistan and in based across the globe? they are insane with wasting our money.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:25 PM
 
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the problem with SS goes for every area of government. its just a simpler example to demonstrate (despite the fact that most people dont understand what a terrible program it is).

the internet is great. did we really need the government for it? i dont think so. you give the government too much credit. how many billions did they waste shooting something in mars recently to see if there was any water there? they are insane with wasting our money.

Yes, we needed the government for it. They created TCP/IP. TCP/IP is how all computers talk to each other. It goes further then the internet btw. VOIP, your companies network, ATM machines and credit card transcations all use TCP/IP. It is one of man's greatest achivements and it was done with the government's innovation.

again I can see the arguement with Goverment spending in other areas, but the TCP/IP protocol is a good example how youy taxes can work for your benifit.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:41 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Yes, we needed the government for it. They created TCP/IP. TCP/IP is how all computers talk to each other. It goes further then the internet btw. VOIP, your companies network, ATM machines and credit card transcations all use TCP/IP. It is one of man's greatest achivements and it was done with the government's innovation.

again I can see the arguement with Goverment spending in other areas, but the TCP/IP protocol is a good example how youy taxes can work for your benifit.
you throw enough money into the government's wallet there are bound to be some useful things that come out of it. you seem very fixated on TCP/IP protocol. im not going to change your mind by suggesting we could do it without governments intrusion. i am happy that you see that government wastes incredible amounts of money on stuff that is totally useless to us. in addition to being incredibly inefficient with things that are useful to us (but arent really good because we would be much better off without their intrustion).
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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you throw enough money into the government's wallet there are bound to be some useful things that come out of it. you seem very fixated on TCP/IP protocol. im not going to change your mind by suggesting we could do it without governments intrusion. i am happy that you see that government wastes incredible amounts of money on stuff that is totally useless to us. in addition to being incredibly inefficient with things that are useful to us (but arent really good because we would be much better off without their intrustion).

Again the internet was a waste of money? Its useless to us? You seem to use it all day. Can't be too useless.

You cant change my mind about the internet or TCP/IP because what I am telling you is true. You are having trouble accepting the fact that the government has improved your life.

I'll move off of TCP/IP if it makes you happy.

How about hyperlinking? They did that too. You can read about it here:

Hyperlink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
World Wide Web - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not Big into computers? Thats ok, you can read about GPS, also created with the help of the US government.

Global Positioning System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So are we better off without the Government's innovations? I dont think so.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Marion County, FL
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I dont hate police, I just think 200k for 8 officers in ONE town is excessive. I really dont care what you think.
That comes out to $25K per officer! Do you honestly think they should put their lives on the line for that paltry sum? Do you realize that's less than $500 a week?

Unbelievable.
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