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With universal one payer health care there is no Medicaid, no Medicare, no veteran's care, no Native health services, no medical portion of workman's comp. Everyone has coverage when they need it.
With universal one payer health care there is no Medicaid, no Medicare, no veteran's care, no Native health services, no medical portion of workman's comp. Everyone has coverage when they need it.
This is a bit like saying because you are going to buy everything and even new things at Sears rather than individual smaller stores and that will solve your financial problems.
You aren't saving anything, you are spending MORE because you are doing MORE, and you are doing it when you can't even afford what you spent on to start out, can you understand that?
The figures quoted in the OP have also been mentioned in other threads on this subject. Liberals either ignore them or poo-poo them.
Conclusion: Liberals (excuse me, "progressives" ) don't like to be confronted with cold, hard facts.
I am neither liberal, nor progressive and my opinion is that in a country as rich as the US its shameful to have any number of people who cannot afford medical care because of finances. We give billions in aid to other nations and I think our people should come first, even if:
1) Some aren't poor
2) It opens a door to fraud
3) Some don't want insurance just because....
Besides foreign aid, we have other immense expenses, like fighting drug cartels in Columbia via satellites. These should be second to medical care, food, education and shelter for all Americans.
This is a bit like saying because you are going to buy everything and even new things at Sears rather than individual smaller stores and that will solve your financial problems.
You aren't saving anything, you are spending MORE because you are doing MORE, and you are doing it when you can't even afford what you spent on to start out, can you understand that?
No, it's not a bit like that. That's a bad analogy. You're still talking health insurance and I'm talking health care. Without insurance you have no insurance company profits, no highly paid executives, advertising & sales, lobbyists & political donations, duplication of administration, etc. Universal one payer health care pays for health care, not insurance.
I am neither liberal, nor progressive and my opinion is that in a country as rich as the US its shameful to have any number of people who cannot afford medical care because of finances. We give billions in aid to other nations and I think our people should come first, even if:
1) Some aren't poor
2) It opens a door to fraud
3) Some don't want insurance just because....
Besides foreign aid, we have other immense expenses, like fighting drug cartels in Columbia via satellites. These should be second to medical care, food, education and shelter for all Americans.
I do not, no way, no how disagree with you that we should put our own needs high up on the priority list before we send one penny to other countries in foreign aid. This doesn't include helping out when another country has a natural disaster like an earthquake or cyclone. So much of the money we have sent abroad has gone into the pockets of the tin pots who run those countries or it gets frittered away in other ways.
I am neither liberal, nor progressive and my opinion is that in a country as rich as the US its shameful to have any number of people who cannot afford medical care because of finances. We give billions in aid to other nations and I think our people should come first, even if:
1) Some aren't poor
2) It opens a door to fraud
3) Some don't want insurance just because....
Besides foreign aid, we have other immense expenses, like fighting drug cartels in Columbia via satellites. These should be second to medical care, food, education and shelter for all Americans.
Though I agree with you the US should stop funding foreign aid, we only spend 0.1 percent of our GDP on foreign aid each year
How much money does the USA spend on foreign aid each year? (http://www.whfhhc.com/AIDS/84284.htm - broken link)
compared to 4% for Medicare and Medicaid Accounting for Sources of Projected Growth in Federal Spending on Medicare and Medicaid
In other words transferring the cost from foreign aid to CURRENT government healthcare would only pay for a tiny 1/40th of the amount, that is BEFORE we even started talking about some massive new initiative like government funding healthcare for all.
As well the cost of Medicare and Medicaid is projected to skyrocket even more all the way up to a staggering 19% of GDP, Accounting for Sources of Projected Growth in Federal Spending on Medicare and Medicaid
and again even BEFORE we even started talking about some massive new initiative like government funding healthcare for all.
This is something even Liberals should not be advocating, it is more in the realm of what Socialists want, it's not affordable and completely contradictory to what America was founded on - individual responsibility and personal freedom.
I understand the desire for health reform but the best thing to do is to try and reduce the rise and ease of lawsuits so malpractice insurance rates can come back to what they were and doctors and all can pay less, while promoting competition by easing regulation so healthcare can once again be more like a free market where it is not so heavily overseen by government.
This is something even Liberals should not be advocating, it is more in the realm of what Socialists want, it's not affordable and completely contradictory to what America was founded on - individual responsibility and personal freedom.
I understand the desire for health reform but the best thing to do is to try and reduce the rise and ease of lawsuits so malpractice insurance rates can come back to what they were and doctors and all can pay less, while promoting competition by easing regulation so healthcare can once again be more like a free market where it is not so heavily overseen by government.
The line between liberal/progressive and socialist is blurry and getting more so all the time. Socialism works only on small scale such as in religious or tribal communities. It fails every time when it is applied to entire nations of millions of people.
Liability insurance is a necessity for hospitals and other health care provider businesses, as well as the companies that manufacture medical devices and pharmaceuticals; it's not just for doctors. While there are studies that report that the added costs of physician-held malpractice insurance is pretty negligible overall, I have found nothing that tells us how much liability insurance for these other health-related businesses adds to the total cost of health care. It could be substantial.
So, yes, tort reform across the whole health care spectrum should be looked at as something that could bring the total costs down.
The line between liberal/progressive and socialist is blurry and getting more so all the time. Socialism works only on small scale such as in religious or tribal communities. It fails every time when it is applied to entire nations of millions of people.
Liability insurance is a necessity for hospitals and other health care provider businesses, as well as the companies that manufacture medical devices and pharmaceuticals; it's not just for doctors. While there are studies that report that the added costs of physician-held malpractice insurance is pretty negligible overall, I have found nothing that tells us how much liability insurance for these other health-related businesses adds to the total cost of health care. It could be substantial.
So, yes, tort reform across the whole health care spectrum should be looked at as something that could bring the total costs down.
Wouldn't tort reform mostly act as a wealth care provider?
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) don't like to be confronted with cold, hard facts.
