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Old 11-26-2009, 10:19 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I have a question: What is your real motivation for denying climate change?

Is it an economic reason that you deny this is happening largely as a consequence of man made global pollutants, or is it a political reason, as the right has used Al Gore as their lightning rod to politicize a scientific argument, not a political one. If neither of those, how do you consistently deny that rising temperatures are not showing copious examples of potentially irreversible change?

I would estimate between 40 to 60% of deniers have no clue as to why they think man is not causing this but instead do so for a combination of reasons, mainly the radical rightwing attempts to deny this is happening (George W. Bush, Sen. Inhofe, Rush Limbaugh, FOX, etc., etc..) being the primary reason(s).

only the sun has the power to really change the temp of the planet, nothing man can do will change the temp of the planet as much as the sun.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:27 AM
 
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Another thing, people who are concerned about global warming should be glad when homelessness increases and people are sleeping outdoors because that's the only way for people to really get involved with improving energy use. People need to start living without cars, without airplanes, without electricity and home heat if they want to make a difference. If all the homeless were given nice heated homes with electricity and all the conveniences they would just be adding to he problem.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: In Transition
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They have to use fear to sell this.

20 ft sea level changes soon (per Al Gore) which turned out to be 2 ft over 100 years instead (per scientists).

Guess which number the masses were told ? Guess which number they remember ?
LOL, and we still have to endure the mindless repetition of various "Inconvenient Truth" "factoids" spouted by the AGW proponents.

My personal favorite is how we're supposed to have more intense hurricane seasons as years progress. I had to recently read some dumb reporter's lecture on how deniers are supposed to repent because she apparently got all of her information from "An Inconvenient Truth". A quick Google search turns up that hurricanes has gone down
- in frequency
- and in intensity

And yet we have to endure constant parrot like repetition of how sea levels are rising, hurricanes are increasing in intensity, etc.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:32 AM
 
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Beliefers are flexible.

They can adjust easily.

They are living beliefers!
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Another thing, people who are concerned about global warming should be glad when homelessness increases and people are sleeping outdoors because that's the only way for people to really get involved with improving energy use. People need to start living without cars, without airplanes, without electricity and home heat if they want to make a difference. If all the homeless were given nice heated homes with electricity and all the conveniences they would just be adding to he problem.
Brilliant analysis.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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I didnt know Bob Jones University (or was it Oral Roberts?) had climatologists on their teaching staff

Try Texas A&M University
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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WRONG. This study admits CO2 levels were the same as now 20 million years ago. I've seen other studies where CO2 levels were higher.
Of course you did.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Try Texas A&M University
The 'Texas' part says it all.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Thank you for showing FOX's role in this. They are the leading media outlet discrediting the scientific consensus
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: In Transition
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Of course you did.
If you were truly concerned about CO2 levels, you would not have posted that waste of electrons.

Do you realize how much CO2 was wasted by:

a) The manufacturing of your computer for you to post that wasted lack of information
b) The electricity needed for your computer to edit and send it
c) All the manufacturing and electricity needed by the Internet to send the post to the CityData computer
d) The energy required by CityData to store that waste of a post, and
e) the energy used by my computer to receive and view that post?

We could probably curb half the world's CO2 if we reduced CityData posts to only informative ones. (BTW, for the sarcastically challenged, this was a tongue-in-cheek comment).
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