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Old 11-29-2009, 10:33 AM
 
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Who knows what's going on here - it could be very nefarious - but lack of evidence is not evidence to the contrary.

The first blow up was just about whether to include dissenting views in the final report - had nothing to do with the science. We'll see how this shakes out. Hopefully there will be repercussions if they are tampering with data.

You are kidding right? The dissenting views had everything to do with science. You are aware they were putting temp guages by heat sources so they would register higher temps don't you? Just one of many scame these so called scientists were up to.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The rule (according to Ed Begley, Jr.) is that if you do not possess a Ph. D. and are not part of a peer review group, your opinion means nothing.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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You are kidding right? The dissenting views had everything to do with science. You are aware they were putting temp guages by heat sources so they would register higher temps don't you? Just one of many scame these so called scientists were up to.
Please cite non-biased evidence for your claim.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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You are kidding right? The dissenting views had everything to do with science. You are aware they were putting temp guages by heat sources so they would register higher temps don't you? Just one of many scame these so called scientists were up to.
They aren't reading the emails and the data. They don't follow any news other than their selected talking point sites. Severly misinformed is a light way of putting it. They will catch on eventually as this goes on, though some will fade off to the conspiracy sites and refuse to admit this ever happened.
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:51 AM
 
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Please cite non-biased evidence for your claim.



You are believing all the faulty data from biased sites and scientists so it would be irrelevent to post sites which disput your Global Warming propaganda. You are well sucked into it even when this scam has been exposed. Some people do not want to know the truth. The issue of the guages has been in the news for some time (not that you will ever see the truth reported by liberal news).
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Climate change data dumped - Times Online



I'd say this completes the debunking of this whole man made global warming scare created and manufactured by warm-mongering 'scientists'.
Not in the slightest. If anything, it discredits this ONE study (out of thousands) - if even that. The lost data were originally collected from weather stations from around the world. It might be painstakingly slow and tedious, but I'm sure the data can be recollected (presumably the weather stations keep their data stored).

Also, I don't know how much creedence I'm going to put into a story which quotes someone from Colorado University:

"Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science,” he said.""

seeing as how there is no such thing as Colorado University.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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You are believing all the faulty data from biased sites and scientists so it would be irrelevent to post sites which disput your Global Warming propaganda. You are well sucked into it even when this scam has been exposed. Some people do not want to know the truth. The issue of the guages has been in the news for some time (not that you will ever see the truth reported by liberal news).
Yep, her response is that of a fallacy anwyay. She precedes her request with a subjective requirement which will easily allow her to wave off any evidence you might provide simply on the basis that she claims it is "biased".

Never mind the fact that the defense she holds is that of one where their entire credibility is in question. What should be a request of "provide evidence to support your case that is quantifiable" ends up being nothing more than a political game of words to avoid dealing with the issue entirely. The very same thing that is being done by those implicated in this scandal. The end result is simply a liar lying for liars.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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Please cite non-biased evidence for your claim.
There's been plenty of issues with the temperature stations, it's just another example of the never ending issues that crop up. They have guidelines for where they should be placed. For example they shouldn't be near parking lots, buildings or other places that could corrupt the readings. Certainly next to a burn barrel is not a good place.




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Old 11-29-2009, 11:57 AM
 
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Yep, her response is that of a fallacy anwyay. She precedes her request with a subjective requirement which will easily allow her to wave off any evidence you might provide simply on the basis that she claims it is "biased".

Never mind the fact that the defense she holds is that of one where their entire credibility is in question. What should be a request of "provide evidence to support your case that is quantifiable" ends up being nothing more than a political game of words to avoid dealing with the issue entirely. The very same thing that is being done by those implicated in this scandal. The end result is simply a liar lying for liars.

I am not a liar but it is clear the global warming sheep are nothing more then blind sheep who will demand no answers, believe no proof, and refuse to see it even when presented.

You would think anyone with half a brain would say stop everything until this new evidance of hiding data, scewing data is resolved. But know the sheep will still bury their head in the sand. The differance between me an some sheep is when I hear something, I look into it myself. The left winger sheep as usual want everyone to do the work for them.
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Old 11-29-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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There's been plenty of issues with the temperature stations, it's just another example of the never ending issues that crop up. They have guidelines for where they should be placed. For example they shouldn't be near parking lots, buildings or other places that could corrupt the readings. Certainly next to a burn barrel is not a good place.




More reading here: Home


Will fall on deaf ears.

Here is a response from Bluefly the last time I cornered her/him with a bunch of evidence concerning the science:

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So, here it is, once and for all: I don't give a crap about the science because I don't give a crap about global warming.
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