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That's why you don't send them to public school. That's why you monitor their whereabouts 24/7. That's why you keep their schedule busy with worthwhile pursuits.
I can guarantee you that in the 1950's, even before abortion and contraception became available, fewer girls were getting pregnant. That's because fewer of them were having sex. Why is it that people in the 1950's could practice abstinence more successfully than people in 2009?
The answer: because they were expected to.
1. Private schools, not an option for most people. Not counting the fact that the highest pregnancy rate is STILL found among Catholic school girls. Private schools don't mean squat as far as avoiding kids having kids goes, and as statistics show, even more harmful than public schools. At least in public schools the chances of a kid getting the proper education they need rises.
2. As I said, sit on them constantly, you will loose them. I'm a successful parent of three and a grandparent. How much experience do you have?
3. Again, not a viable option, and my point number two comes into play.
People had sex in the 1950's as well. Abortions occured in back alleys and bathrooms, many times deadly to the mother. Else the girl went to "camp" for nine months and Momma, or Auntie in another county, suddenly had a new baby after an "easy pregnancy", and didn't "show".
In the 1950's, all of this was kept "hush hush" out of a sad and misplaced sence of so-called "morality".
Now it is out in the open where this concern can be easily addressed through education.
Perhaps off topic, but abusive husbands and fathers were rampant in the 1950's as well, another concern that has been "outed" so proper education, and support groups for abused children and wives, can be created.
Well you got ripped off then, because I just researched all of this in the past month for a friend who will need to deliver in Denver and has to be self-pay. I was helping her to figure out costs. I spoke to her OB's billing office as well as the hospital's billing office and my quotes are absolutely accurate and recent.
well first off notice I said I did not use a hospital I had my child at home. Secondly as i said before this is off topic and even if we give you 6000 that is 12 times more than the high estimate for abortion and that is just the beginning.
That's why you don't send them to public school. That's why you monitor their whereabouts 24/7. That's why you keep their schedule busy with worthwhile pursuits.
I can guarantee you that in the 1950's, even before abortion and contraception became available, fewer girls were getting pregnant. That's because fewer of them were having sex. Why is it that people in the 1950's could practice abstinence more successfully than people in 2009?
The answer: because they were expected to.
You are unbelievably unrealistic and delusional. First of you think kids in private or christian school don't have sex haha. You think you can monitor them 24/7 haha plus way to let your child develop independence and decision making ability. Yes give them no free time great plan. You sound like the parents that end up with kids in counseling when they are in there 20's because they had such controlled childhood they are clueless about the real world. Like it or not kids do need freedom to make mistakes....thats how we learn and become stronger. maybe you wish this was 1950 but it is not.
Ps the abortion rates are the lowest they have been since it was legalized.
A Guttmacher study in 2006 found that roughly "14% of the decline in teen pregnancy between 1995 and 2002 was due to teens' delaying sex or having sex less often, while 86% was due to an increase in sexually experienced teens' contraceptive use."
You are unbelievably unrealistic and delusional. First of you think kids in private or christian school don't have sex haha. You think you can monitor them 24/7 haha plus way to let your child develop independence and decision making ability. Yes give them no free time great plan. You sound like the parents that end up with kids in counseling when they are in there 20's because they had such controlled childhood they are clueless about the real world. Like it or not kids do need freedom to make mistakes....thats how we learn and become stronger. maybe you wish this was 1950 but it is not.
Ps the abortion rates are the lowest they have been since it was legalized.
A Guttmacher study in 2006 found that roughly "14% of the decline in teen pregnancy between 1995 and 2002 was due to teens' delaying sex or having sex less often, while 86% was due to an increase in sexually experienced teens' contraceptive use."[LEFT]
Read more: Why Have Abortion Rates Fallen? - TIME
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Never could understand that "Abstinence Only" attitude.
Remove the one single greatest tool for lowering abortions and unwanted children.
Sometimes people just baffle me.
Then I remember abortion is a political tool, and those who preach abstinence only, don't dispense, or agree with, condoms, pills, and other contraceptives don't really give a rat's pooter about the unborn.
If this was your daughter, what are you going to do? Lock her up? Snip her tubes?
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Then I remember abortion is a political tool, and those who preach abstinence only, don't dispense, or agree with, condoms, pills, and other contraceptives don't really give a rat's pooter about the unborn.
Anti-abortion and pro-abstinence is a method of control for the Church over woman. Anti-abortion and anti-contraception creates a large birth rate, it allows the proliferation of Christians by indoctrinating the followers that abortion is "killing" babies and premarital sex is a sin. Developed nations are enlightened enough to know such policies are barbaric and ancient, but some insist on putting these policies in place as law today.
Apples and Oranges
Pro Life is an abortion issue the term Pro life is assigned to the abortion issue
War is a national defense issue. therefore i would not be anti war. if you are not anti war you can be labeled pro war.
I believing in defending the country as well as the unborn.
1. Private schools, not an option for most people. Not counting the fact that the highest pregnancy rate is STILL found among Catholic school girls. Private schools don't mean squat as far as avoiding kids having kids goes, and as statistics show, even more harmful than public schools. At least in public schools the chances of a kid getting the proper education they need rises.
2. As I said, sit on them constantly, you will loose them. I'm a successful parent of three and a grandparent. How much experience do you have?
3. Again, not a viable option, and my point number two comes into play.
People had sex in the 1950's as well. Abortions occured in back alleys and bathrooms, many times deadly to the mother. Else the girl went to "camp" for nine months and Momma, or Auntie in another county, suddenly had a new baby after an "easy pregnancy", and didn't "show".
In the 1950's, all of this was kept "hush hush" out of a sad and misplaced sence of so-called "morality".
Now it is out in the open where this concern can be easily addressed through education.
Perhaps off topic, but abusive husbands and fathers were rampant in the 1950's as well, another concern that has been "outed" so proper education, and support groups for abused children and wives, can be created.
what source do you have that catholic school girls have a higher pregnancy rate?
Apples and Oranges
Pro Life is an abortion issue the term Pro life is assigned to the abortion issue
"assigned"???? Bull****. The anti-abortion crowd worked hard to change their name to "pro-life". It Is nothing more than manipulating the language.
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. Secondly as i said before this is off topic and even if we give you 6000 that is 12 times more than the high estimate for abortion and that is just the beginning.
