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The real problem is, there are basically no social or economic benefits to diversity, outside of the "cool" factor. Like wow, I don't even have to leave the United States to see China because I can go to San Francisco and watch their parades. But on the other hand, there are a lot of social problems associated with the evaporation of culture, the cultural and language barriers, the crime rate disparities, preferential treatment under our affirmative action system, and constant charges of discrimination.
Really? Then why is it those who live in diverse neighborhoods are generally much more accepting of people, people's faith and sexuality as opposed to neighborhoods that are not. Why is it that in my huge family, which consists of northern whites on one side and Mexican-Americans as in-laws you can see so many examples of this. My most racist relatives live in the least diverse areas, while my most open-minded relatives live in cities or diverse Houston suburbs. As for the comment about the evaporation of culture, if culture evaporated, we'd all be homogeneous and your worries would never come to fruition. How can there be preferential treatment if there is no culture in the first place? Or are you instead less accepting of those cultures that you feel are impeding on yours, which you so obviously feel is superior?
Originally Posted by Redshadowz The real problem is, there are basically no social or economic benefits to diversity, outside of the "cool" factor. Like wow, I don't even have to leave the United States to see China because I can go to San Francisco and watch their parades. But on the other hand, there are a lot of social problems associated with the evaporation of culture, the cultural and language barriers, the crime rate disparities, preferential treatment under our affirmative action system, and constant charges of discrimination.
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Really? Then why is it those who live in diverse neighborhoods are generally much more accepting of people, people's faith and sexuality as opposed to neighborhoods that are not. Why is it that in my huge family, which consists of northern whites on one side and Mexican-Americans as in-laws you can see so many examples of this. My most racist relatives live in the least diverse areas, while my most open-minded relatives live in cities or diverse Houston suburbs. As for the comment about the evaporation of culture, if culture evaporated, we'd all be homogeneous and your worries would never come to fruition. How can there be preferential treatment if there is no culture in the first place? Or are you instead less accepting of those cultures that you feel are impeding on yours, which you so obviously feel is superior?
I don't get it. The poster's point is that there are no benefits to diversity. Then you post, well then, "why is it those who live in diverse neighborhoods are generally much more accepting of people".
Is this your attempt to refute the poster's point? You attempt to prove that there are, indeed, benefits to diversity by pointing out that those who live in diverse areas are more accepting?
Do you really think that was a good argument? Do you think that you have successfully refuted the poster's point? What you said has nothing to do with what the poster said. What kind of thinking is this?
I agree with the poster. There is not much that is good that comes with diversity in this country. That's just a liberal platitude that we are bombarded with in an attempt to make us more accepting. The most we can hope for is acceptance.
Also, your huge family notwithstanding, I find the people who live in the least diverse areas are the most accepting. Those who live in and around minorities and interact with minorities on a daily basis are the least accepting.
The city of Atlanta is majority black but the greater metropolitan Atlanta area is majority white. The Atlanta suburbs do have a sizable black and hispanic population. Even though the greater metropolitan Atlanta area is majority white, it is the minority population that perpetrates the vast majority of violent crime. These include robberies, car jacking, home invasions, etc. No, I'm sorry but I'm not accepting of this.
This not a race issue or a safety issue either. Its a class issue, wealty white folk dont want to live next to poor white folk either.
Back in the 50's and 60's most well do do folk were whites. so the term White Flight was coined...but the truth these day is there are more well to do black and hispanic folk leaving the older homes for newer homes and nieghborhoods.
After WWII, new, cheaper built homes were built for our returning GIs...Disposable homes and neighborhoods were created. The homes built were not the type that last from generations to generation...Their Quality and style were buillt for the new ever changing American consumer.
Model homes and automobiles are marketed to the American consumer as newer is better...and the poorer folk pick up the used models.
Side note here: till ca. 1970; Hispanics as a group were also counted as 'White'--------at least those who were not obviously Black or Indian.
That $40,539 won't get you very far in D.C. You can live comfortably in Fort Worth for your $22,708.
My income: $55,000
My IQ: tested in the Army at 136 (98th percentile)
I have lived in both D.C. and Atlanta and have formed my opinions from experience so say what you will.
Have a nice day!
I think you were wise to move back to Fort Worth. You'll certainly find more success there than in a city like Washington or Atlanta. In the mean time we in the District of Columbia will just struggle along in the ghetto.
The move from inner cities to the suburbs & for some suburbanites to return to...trendy downtown enclaves,is a worldwide phenomenon...
It happens in every developed city ...& certainly has no racial factor,only...monetary...
Some of you have some crazy ideas about the world.
White flight is motivated by not wanting to live in a neighborhood full of people having beer parties on the front lawn every evening, not wanting to live with high crime rates, and not having to put up with what is generally considered uncouth behavior. Most people don't care who is doing it.
The fact of the matter in all this is several ethnic groups are unpleasant to live among. This doesn't mean every Mexican or every African-American is nuisance neighbor. It means crime and nuisance behavior has a strong correlation with these groups and most people who have the means to escape this kind of an environment are going to move out the first chance they get.
As far as people living in racially diverse neighborhoods being more tolerant? I live in one of those neighborhoods and even though these people claim to be tolerant, they are far from it.
This nonsense that everyone has a little bit of everything in them is nothing more than politically correct rubbish. We have DNA testing now that supports this. You can have a DNA test and find out where your ancestors were from. Right down to a village in many cases. Some people have posted their results on the internet and show nothing non-European.
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