Single-payer health care plan dies in Senate (cocaine, health care system, premium)
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For mandates I am inclined to agree though the government has been successful in stopping people from buying things. The only reason it works with Auto insurance is due to state laws. It would be interesting to see what legal back flips the government will try to get the interstate commerce clause to cover this and whether it will be successful.
Mandatory car insurance is a different issue. First, driving is a privilege. Second, one can easily and legally chose not to have car insurance by not owning a car.
As much as I admire Bernie Sanders, many of the progressives knew single-payer didn't have a chance.
I personally hope to see it in my lifetime and I know a lot of people my age are for it. Too bad Congress it out of touch with the people. I can't wait for the people of my generation to take over.
For mandates I am inclined to agree though the government has been successful in stopping people from buying things. The only reason it works with Auto insurance is due to state laws. It would be interesting to see what legal back flips the government will try to get the interstate commerce clause to cover this and whether it will be successful.
Driving a vehicle on public roads is a privilege. that is why they can force that. You don't have to drive.
Mandatory car insurance is a different issue. First, driving is a privilege. Second, one can easily and legally chose not to have car insurance by not owning a car.
As much as I admire Bernie Sanders, many of the progressives knew single-payer didn't have a chance.
I personally hope to see it in my lifetime and I know a lot of people my age are for it. Too bad Congress it out of touch with the people. I can't wait for the people of my generation to take over.
All Doctors, Nurses, Pharmacist, etc.... would have to be Government employees. For it not to be unconstitutional.
Mandatory car insurance is a different issue. First, driving is a privilege. Second, one can easily and legally chose not to have car insurance by not owning a car.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
Driving a vehicle on public roads is a privilege. that is why they can force that. You don't have to drive.
I think you may be misunderstanding what I am saying. The federal government does not force you to buy auto insurance the states do. The idea of federally mandated insurance, other then things that are worked into taxes like social security and medicare, is to the best of my knowledge untested constitutionally and as such it's constitutionality is questionable. Now it is clear that the federal government can constitutionally prevent you from buying thing like certain firearms, and drugs due to court rulings in the 1930s or earlier, but I am not certain if the federal government can force you to buy things constitutionally other then forcing people to pay taxes.
So this will be yet another failure of Obama's?????
They will pass some type of health care reform even if there is little change from the status quo. Obama doesn't care. He just wants to get re-elected. Whatever reform passes, Obama will support and take credit for so he is going to cite any reform as a "win" for him.
It's a glass is half empty half full thing. You could argue it's a partial victory or a partial failure. He didn't get the public option or the single payer aspect that he wanted. However, he did achieve some reforms that will increase access (and increase the deficit and taxes).
Personally, I was okay with reform, I just didn't want the public option and a complete government takeover of health care. That is not going to happen now. Yes, we will pay more in taxes and add to the federal deficit but the reality is it will inrease access to healthcare for many people although not as many people as Obama suggested. And it will keep premiums from escalating at the ridiculous level it had been going at. And we really owe the people of the United States and grass roots displays at the Town Halls for making this happen.
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