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Old 12-20-2009, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This was pretty well known. It is shocking that posters who regularly comment on health care issues don't understand the basics.

Pharma Deal Haunts Democrats « The Washington Independent
Thanks for the link. Did you have the same outrage when GWB put a provision on Medicare part D that the government could never negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical companies?

Apparently, big pharma will pay 80 billion towards healthcare reform if there will be no changes affecting the pharmaceutical companies.

I wonder what would have happened if the entire Senate both dems and repubs had stood up to health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. We have a government that is divided and big corporations are the winners as a result!

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Senate Democrat leaders have already shown zero willingness this year to break the agreement with Big Pharma, under which the nation’s largest drug companies have pledged up to $80 billion to subsidize health-care reform over the next decade in return for assurance that Democrats wouldn’t seek further concessions. Fearing the industry’s opposition to the underlying reform bill, Senate Democrats, behind Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), have already shot down several proposals in recent weeks that would have broken the deal — including legislation making it easier for Americans to buy their prescription drugs from abroad, as well as the very provision that the House used to close the doughnut hole.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Thanks for the link. Did you have the same outrage when GWB put a provision on Medicare part D that the government could never negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical companies?

Apparently, big pharma will pay 80 billion towards healthcare reform if there will be no changes affecting the pharmaceutical companies.

I wonder what would have happened if the entire Senate both dems and repubs had stood up to health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. We have a government that is divided and big corporations are the winners as a result!

Now you want to change the subject that you have been proven wrong?

The 80 billion was a bribe to get their way on the doghnut hole, the investment will be rewarded many times over.

OK , I'll play. I thought and still think Medicare Part D was an outrageous expansion of an entitlement system run amuck.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Thanks for the link. Did you have the same outrage when GWB put a provision on Medicare part D that the government could never negotiate drug prices with the pharmaceutical companies?

Apparently, big pharma will pay 80 billion towards healthcare reform if there will be no changes affecting the pharmaceutical companies.

I wonder what would have happened if the entire Senate both dems and repubs had stood up to health insurance and pharmaceutical companies. We have a government that is divided and big corporations are the winners as a result!
I don't even think WE (those of us who aren't millionaires and billionaires) have a government anymore. We have a few champions for the people: Bernie Sanders and Dennis Kucinich come to mind but we don't have enough.

This health care bill should show everyone just how corrupt our Congress is. I already knew this before this health care bill but hopefully this opens more people's eyes.

It's time we make government work for the people and not the corporations.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What doubles from 7 to 14? If you are talking drug patents, the patent has been 20 years for quite some time.
Big Pharma made a deal..they get exclusive use of their drugs for double the amount of time before generics can come into the picture.
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