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Old 12-22-2009, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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More of that obama "smart power", resetting relationships around the world.

What happened to that 2 week deadline, 2 months ago?

It seems he has not proffered himself and the US sufficiently to "unclench" that fist.

Ahmadinejad on Nuke Deadline: 'We Don't Care' - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com

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TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's president on Tuesday dismissed a year-end deadline set by the Obama administration and the West for Tehran to accept a U.N.-drafted deal to swap enriched uranium for nuclear fuel, and claimed his government is now "10 times stronger" than a year ago.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:33 PM
 
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The OP has this neocon fantasy that we are the World's dictator.

4000 dead soldiers and 1 Trillion Dollars squandered in Iraq and they STILL want to start wars and try push other nations around.
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:36 PM
 
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The OP has this neocon fantasy that we are the World's dictator.
Lack of self-esteem; insecurity complex. Classic, actually.

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4000 dead soldiers and 1 Trillion Dollars squandered in Iraq and they STILL want to start wars and try push other nations around.
"Why won't they do what I tell them?!!"
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:39 PM
 
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Well at least we told off North Korea.




oh yeah...
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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The OP has this neocon fantasy that we are the World's dictator.

4000 dead soldiers and 1 Trillion Dollars squandered in Iraq and they STILL want to start wars and try push other nations around.
Well, shall we start with a few facts to set you on the right course?

1) In October 2008, candidate Barack Obama said: "If we can prevent them from importing the gasoline that they need and the refined petroleum products, that starts changing the cost-benefit analysis" of pursuing a nuclear agenda.

2) On December 15th, the House passed the Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act by a mind-numbing 412-12 show of bipartisan support

3) The Democratic controlled Congress proclaimed in the aforementioned Act that "Iran is not interested in a diplomatic resolution."

4) Barack Obama has curiously refused to say whether he would sign the act after it passes the Senate. (Most Presidents know that the mere threat of signing such legislation would be leverage - but not Barack Obama - he's too inexperienced to understand such logic)


Therefore, we can conclude three things:


1) There is overwhelming bipartisan support for cracking down on nuclear-ambitious Iran

2) Barrack Obama does not have the testicular fortitude to defeat Iran's nuclear program (Candidate rhetoric is beat by real-life current events once again)

3) Iran is laughing in Barack Obama's face


So, are you still sure that it's a neocon wet dream to punish Iran? The Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act and it's overwhelmingly Democratic supporters disagree with you.

H.R. 2194: Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)

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Old 12-22-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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The OP has this neocon fantasy that we are the World's dictator.

4000 dead soldiers and 1 Trillion Dollars squandered in Iraq and they STILL want to start wars and try push other nations around.
who is they? who is starting the wars now?

we also have this news today:

Hugo Chavez orders military to shoot at US aircraft
President Hugo Chavez has accused the US of violating Venezuela's airspace with an unmanned spy plane, and ordered his military to shoot down any such aircraft in the future.

as the elite in power lose their grip on financial control, with no real economic recovery in sight, we can expect to see escalation of aggression in different countries with enough "tough talk" for everyone.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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Johnny B. Fury, I took one thing away from that... Candidate rhetoric beats real-life current events once again. SOP
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:02 PM
 
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who is they? who is starting the wars now?

we also have this news today:

Hugo Chavez orders military to shoot at US aircraft
President Hugo Chavez has accused the US of violating Venezuela's airspace with an unmanned spy plane, and ordered his military to shoot down any such aircraft in the future.

as the elite in power lose their grip on financial control, with no real economic recovery in sight, we can expect to see escalation of aggression in different countries with enough "tough talk" for everyone.

Which war has Barack Obama started? What he's mainly trying to do is clean up the mess the last guys got us into.
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:04 PM
 
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Neocon thugs!
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Old 12-22-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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we also have this news today:

Hugo Chavez orders military to shoot at US aircraft
President Hugo Chavez has accused the US of violating Venezuela's airspace with an unmanned spy plane, and ordered his military to shoot down any such aircraft in the future.

Hugo Chavez is a tinpot dictator who's been trolling out this kind of faux-sabre rattling for a while now...so who knows how accurate his claim is. But on the other hand--if we were sending unmanned spyplanes over Venezuelan airspace, wouldn't Venezuala as a sovereign nation have the right to shoot them down? If it was a Venezuelan spyplane over Colombia, they'd be all over the incident...

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