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Old 04-29-2010, 09:56 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Quite obviously, no one 'checked out' Obama.

You think the Bushes and Clinton were constitutionally ineligible?
What's your evidence?
Quite obviously the Federal Election Commission did check out Obama or he wouldn't have gotten on the ballot. They aren't just a couple of guys talking over coffee, for crying out loud. They are equally split between Democrats and Republicans, with the consent of the Senate.

 
Old 04-29-2010, 09:59 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Quite obviously the Federal Election Commission did check out Obama or he wouldn't have gotten on the ballot. They aren't just a couple of guys talking over coffee, for crying out loud. They are equally split between Democrats and Republicans, with the consent of the Senate.
What, exactly, did they "check out?" What's the verification process? Where's the FEC's signed certification of constitutional eligibility?
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:04 PM
 
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What, exactly, did they "check out?" What's the verification process? Where's the FEC's signed certification of constitutional eligibility?

you folks must have only 1/2 a brain cell left if you really think a man who was as opposed as obama could get elected without being exposed before the election. very powerful and wealthy people who have millions of dollars to investigate this could not come up with anything other than the truth. you should get on another soap box as this one makes you all out to be fools who will fall for most anything.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:11 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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What, exactly, did they "check out?" What's the verification process? Where's the FEC's signed certification of constitutional eligibility?
After all the dismissed lawsuits---what's it up to now, 68?---where the Federal Election Commission has made their case before the courts of this land that the average citizen doesn't have the right to their certifications of constitutional eligibility I would think you'd know that they aren't published online for curiosity seekers---read that birthers. The people and organizations who have the legal right and responsibility to see the eligibility information has seen it. Case closed.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:26 PM
 
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Obama's father was not an immigrant, nor did he ever seek to immigrate. He was here temporarily for University study.

Anyway, look at the requirements for naturalization. All naturalized persons are required to denounce allegiance to any foreign sovereignty of which they have been a citizen.

Oath of Allegiance for Naturalized Citizens

EVERY naturalized citizen takes that oath, not just diplomats and army personnel. Why? Because any person having foreign citizenship owes allegiance to that foreign sovereignty, etc.
wondered when you were going to get to this.

yep, that is the oath that every naturalized citizen ( not eligible for POTUS ) in the US takes......... but none of their children born in the US do. no matter if they were born before or after their parents made the oath.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Location: NW Houston
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In other words, you don't have anything. I'd really like to see his kindergarten records! Did he play well with others? Did he follow directions well? What did he bring to "Show and Tell"? Did he ever bite the other kids?

Baptism records: Did he cry?
If you are that interested than be my guest go look. I just want to see his long form birth cert.

Name any other president that had his records sealed.

Bush released his records in 1999. If somebody hacked Yale's computers it was a waste of time. Now Ketchup Kerry on the other hand did not release his so maybe that was hacked.

Please provide proof of the hacking.

Yale grades portray Kerry as a lackluster student - The Boston Globe


The New Yorker, not the friendliest venue for the future president, made Bush's grades public in 1999. He had a cumulative grade of 77 at Yale, very much a "gentleman's C." It played into the narrative, reinforced by Bush's tendency on occasion to grab the English language by the neck and wrestle it to the ground, that he was not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

So please go and seek his dirty diapers but dont post them here, instead post the full the story of how Bush and others had thier records sealed like the Omanation.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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you folks must have only 1/2 a brain cell left if you really think a man who was as opposed as obama could get elected without being exposed before the election. very powerful and wealthy people who have millions of dollars to investigate this could not come up with anything other than the truth. you should get on another soap box as this one makes you all out to be fools who will fall for most anything.
We've had a constitutionally ineligible president in Chester Arthur, and almost had one with Charles Evans Hughes. A lot of historical documentation regarding those two has already been posted in this thread. We now, nearly 100 years later, have another incidence of a constitutionally ineligible president, Obama.

How could that possibly happen? It seems NO ONE is responsible for verifying candidates' constitutional eligibility. If anyone thinks the FEC verifies anyone's eligibility, think again. This is all they do:
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In 1975, Congress created the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to administer and enforce the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) - the statute that governs the financing of federal elections. The duties of the FEC, which is an independent regulatory agency, are to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections.
FEC Mission and History

Campaign finance, that's it.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 10:41 PM
 
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wondered when you were going to get to this.

yep, that is the oath that every naturalized citizen ( not eligible for POTUS ) in the US takes......... but none of their children born in the US do. no matter if they were born before or after their parents made the oath.
Correct. If the children were born in the U.S. after their parents were naturalized, the children are natural born citizens. If the children were born in the U.S. before their parents were naturalized, the children are native-born citizens but are not natural born citizens. Chester Arthur is an example of the latter case. His father was naturalized 14 years after he was born. Arthur was not a natural born citizen.

Detailed exploration of that in the essay linked in this post:
//www.city-data.com/forum/13967256-post1439.html

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Old 04-29-2010, 10:51 PM
 
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George Bush happily released most of those records.
kat is right. gwb released none of that. some of his school records were leaked without his permission ( and not the good stuff ) and there was the notorious "leakage" of his national guard days that gave a huge black-eye to CBS for reporting false information........ but, even in that controversy, bush never released his actual documents from the texas air national guard days.

....or has he released any other of the documents you're asking for..... or clinton....bush.....reagan,carter,ford,nixon,johns on,kennedy............... washington.
 
Old 04-29-2010, 11:02 PM
 
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Correct. If the children were born in the U.S. after their parents were naturalized, the children are natural born citizens. If the children were born in the U.S. before their parents were naturalized, the children are native-born citizens but are not natural born citizens. ]
please show me in US law where it states this.
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