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Old 01-08-2010, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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When I put the puzzle pieces together I see the future USA becoming more and more like Latin Amerca as time goes on. Racial Demographic shifts, the shrinking middle class and increasingly corrupt and innefficent government seem to guarantee large US cities will look (and in some cases already do) more like Mexico City, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires in the future than some will be comfortable with.

What do you think?
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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No opinions? I don't mean this as a racial thing BTW, it just is what it is.

I was looking at Google Street View of Mexico and some parts of my own city (SLC, UT) already look like that...

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Old 01-08-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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I have just having similar thoughts this morning. A lot of California cities are ugly and remind me of what I've seen in the neighborhoods of Tijuana.
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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There is also massive corporate influence which both share in spades, it hasn't been as bad here (it's not like we've privatized water) so I can see where you're coming from.
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:41 PM
 
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I think you are right on target.

You can see the 2/3rds of whites in the USA who embrace an ideoloogy that says when we are in power, we make the rules.

They apply laws that they think benefit them and ignore laws when they don't.

Hence we get Americans locked in jail for five years without trial. We torture suspected terrorists. You can mislead Congress and get away scott free. You can ignore Congressional subpoena. You can break the law and the Attorney General just ignore it.

Just a few Months ago they passed an illegal writ of attainder seeking to punish ACORN without trial. Thankfully it was struck down by an appeals court but who knows when it gets to these right wing partisans on the Supreme Court?
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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When I put the puzzle pieces together I see the future USA becoming more and more like Latin Amerca as time goes on. Racial Demographic shifts, the shrinking middle class and increasingly corrupt and innefficent government seem to guarantee large US cities will look (and in some cases already do) more like Mexico City, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires in the future than some will be comfortable with.

What do you think?
Boy, that is a very negative opinion you have of Latin America. Rio de Janeiro is considered one of the most cosmoplian cities in the world, btw!
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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Boy, that is a very negative opinion you have of Latin America. Rio de Janeiro is considered one of the most cosmoplian cities in the world, btw!
with an extremely high crime and murder rate
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Boy, that is a very negative opinion you have of Latin America. Rio de Janeiro is considered one of the most cosmoplian cities in the world, btw!
I pick those cities on purpose. All have beautiful downtowns and fairly large upper and middle class areas, but also extremely large and dangerous slums and huge rich vs poor gaps.

I suppose the Favelas of Rio are full of cosmopolitan joys too, if you can live long enough to enjoy them.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Chanco,

Your name sounds Spanish btw [but I won't say what it means ]. I think it would be great for the U.S. to be more like Latin America because racism is not a problem like it is in this country and people are more welcoming of others.
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Old 01-08-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Chanco,

Your name sounds Spanish btw [but I won't say what it means ]. I think it would be great for the U.S. to be more like Latin America because racism is not a problem like it is in this country and people are more welcoming of others.
Chango and it basically means "Monkey Boy".

But you might want to actually live in Latin America before you make that assumption. There is plenty of racism going on and even worse class divisions.
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