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Legalizing the status of the roughly 12 million undocumented immigrants living in America would create jobs, increase wages and boost the sagging U.S. economy, according to a study released Thursday.
Obviously it would boost the U. S. economy. If we had a choice, I'd rather see millions of college educated professionals come here.
If these millions are legalized, their employers will have to pay them at least minimum wage and abide by all the other labor laws, which is what they've been skirting for decades by hiring the illegals.
I've mixed emotions on the issue, I see the immigrants as some of the hardest working people in the country, often working multiple jobs and seeming to only want a shot at "the American dream" that our own immigrant ancestors sought in times past. I've referred to these illegals as the best crop of new Americans I've seen since the Vietnamese boat people in the 1970's.
Of course there's been a downside to the illegals here; drugs, crime, loss of jobs that Americans "could" do, especially in the construction trades. But we sent a lot of Italian and Irish immigrants back home for their criminal acts, we can do the same with the illegals.
One thing I keep reminding people is that our Immigration laws were written in the 1920's by the KKK and politicians who did the KKK's bidding; shame on them. Until then we had very little in the way of immigration laws, but the KKK wanted to keep out anyone with dark skin, plus any Jews, Catholics, or Asians. It's a damned shame that we still have laws on our books that were rooted in pure evil racism.
Lastly, one thing that NO ONE in Congress is going to tell you is that the illegals are here to stay. They know it. The business community knows it. The National Chamber of Commerce knows it and they work to damned sure make it happen by paying off YOUR congressional reps to let them stay. Only a very few elected types will take a firm stand and clearly state their position, the rest will give you double talk.
For better or worse, the illegals are HERE to stay. All things considered, IMO it's a bit more for the better.
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If you can't make it in Mexico, then how do you want to make it here. Why would we want 20 Mil. people that probably don't even have a High School Diploma. YEah, the wages of the illegals will increase. Then they will get fired and the employers will be looking for new illegals.
If you can't make it in Mexico, then how do you want to make it here. Why would we want 20 Mil. people that probably don't even have a High School Diploma. YEah, the wages of the illegals will increase. Then they will get fired and the employers will be looking for new illegals.
Obviously it would boost the U. S. economy. If we had a choice, I'd rather see millions of college educated professionals come here.
If these millions are legalized, their employers will have to pay them at least minimum wage and abide by all the other labor laws, which is what they've been skirting for decades by hiring the illegals.
Theres a difference between expanding the economy and helping the economy. By increasing the population of the United States by 12 to 20 million(about 4% to 7%), we might increase the current GDP by 1-2%. But what does that really mean to most Americans? It would actually increase the cost of goods and services in this country, while providing absolutely no benefits, outside of bragging rights as the "worlds largest economy". Because the illegal immigrants are not skilled workers so they don't provide any "new opportunities", they don't create jobs, they don't create exports for us to compete with global industry. By legalizing immigrants it would actually drive up the cost of goods and services, which would repeat the extreme rise in prices of most food items like we saw in late 2008.
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One thing I keep reminding people is that our Immigration laws were written in the 1920's by the KKK and politicians who did the KKK's bidding; shame on them. Until then we had very little in the way of immigration laws, but the KKK wanted to keep out anyone with dark skin, plus any Jews, Catholics, or Asians. It's a damned shame that we still have laws on our books that were rooted in pure evil racism.
Wow, you know absolutely nothing. The Immigration laws of this country were last redrawn in 1965 in the civil rights era. Where they changed the priority given to immigrants, from a system that put first priority to people with "skills" to help our economy. To a system that puts the highest priority to people who already have family here, and with unlimited family reunification visas. So the vast majority of immigrants coming in are relatives of other immigrants. If you were to give amnesty to the current waves of illegals. You would see a massive surge of more immigration caused by every relative of the current illegals being thrown to the top of the immigration priority list.
This country would go from being to majority white country to a majority hispanic country within a few years.
Lastly, one thing that NO ONE in Congress is going to tell you is that the illegals are here to stay. They know it. The business community knows it. The National Chamber of Commerce knows it and they work to damned sure make it happen by paying off YOUR congressional reps to let them stay. Only a very few elected types will take a firm stand and clearly state their position, the rest will give you double talk.
For better or worse, the illegals are HERE to stay. All things considered, IMO it's a bit more for the better.
Illegals don't need to be here to stay. Its just that there is absolutely no political will to fix the problem. Since from an economic point-of-view, Americans in many ways benefit from cheap immigrant labor. If tomorrow they deported all the illegals, the cost of fruits and vegetables would skyrocket and would destabilize and devastate that industry. Does that mean immigrant labor is good? Of course not. But it would have to be dealt with in a slower controlled manner, otherwise the impending economic fallout would doom the "party in charge".
If you want to know the real problem with immigration, we should really be talking about repealing the 14th amendment. Which gives a foreigners child citizenship just by being born on US soil. Almost all other countries in the world(if not all of them) require a persons parents to be a citizen of that country before their children are given citizenship.
This law gives foreigners an incentive to sneak into this country just to have their babies. Then symaphetic Americans believe it is "morally wrong" to make them leave the country since their babies are American citizens. The question is, why in the hell would a non-us citizen who is pregnant come to the United States in the first place? Secondly, their baby is still a citizen of the country in which they also have citizenship.
Well I have read some of the posts on illegal immigration and there is alot of hate to the illegal immigratants. Wont it make more sense to put your anger on the goverment, as it has lax policies with illegal immigration and the companies that hire illegals?
Theres a difference between expanding the economy and helping the economy. By increasing the population of the United States by 12 to 20 million(about 4% to 7%), we might increase the current GDP by 1-2%. But what does that really mean to most Americans? It would actually increase the cost of goods and services in this country, while providing absolutely no benefits, outside of bragging rights as the "worlds largest economy". Because the illegal immigrants are not skilled workers so they don't provide any "new opportunities", they don't create jobs, they don't create exports for us to compete with global industry. By legalizing immigrants it would actually drive up the cost of goods and services, which would repeat the extreme rise in prices of most food items like we saw in late 2008.
Wow, you know absolutely nothing. The Immigration laws of this country were last redrawn in 1965 in the civil rights era. Where they changed the priority given to immigrants, from a system that put first priority to people with "skills" to help our economy. To a system that puts the highest priority to people who already have family here, and with unlimited family reunification visas. So the vast majority of immigrants coming in are relatives of other immigrants. If you were to give amnesty to the current waves of illegals. You would see a massive surge of more immigration caused by every relative of the current illegals being thrown to the top of the immigration priority list.
This country would go from being to majority white country to a majority hispanic country within a few years.
Illegals don't need to be here to stay. Its just that there is absolutely no political will to fix the problem. Since from an economic point-of-view, Americans in many ways benefit from cheap immigrant labor. If tomorrow they deported all the illegals, the cost of fruits and vegetables would skyrocket and would destabilize and devastate that industry. Does that mean immigrant labor is good? Of course not. But it would have to be dealt with in a slower controlled manner, otherwise the impending economic fallout would doom the "party in charge".
If you want to know the real problem with immigration, we should really be talking about repealing the 14th amendment. Which gives a foreigners child citizenship just by being born on US soil. Almost all other countries in the world(if not all of them) require a persons parents to be a citizen of that country before their children are given citizenship.
This law gives foreigners an incentive to sneak into this country just to have their babies. Then symaphetic Americans believe it is "morally wrong" to make them leave the country since their babies are American citizens. The question is, why in the hell would a non-us citizen who is pregnant come to the United States in the first place? Secondly, their baby is still a citizen of the country in which they also have citizenship.
agree with 90% of this post, except for the part that most americans benefit from illegal labor. the beneficiaries of illegal labor are the big business owners as it increases their profit margin. most americans only see a reduction in their pay due to excess competition for jobs. if illegals were deported or (self-deported) the wages would start to rise for americans as more jobs open up. it might slightly hurt the profit margin at the "top", but would be a positive gain for the average american worker.
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