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Where do corporations come into this equation? It doesn't! Not in the way it was intended.
527s and unions have done this for years. They have no one to answer to. A corporation that picks a side in an issue or candidate will only hurt themselves. for instance Ge comes out with pro abortion commercials and support those candidates in commercials, do you think the anti abortionist group will buy GE? Ge would only be hurting itself. However it is their right to do so
When have you ever heard someone dissect the opinion rendered in Roe v. Wade or Hamdan v. Rumsfeld? I dare say never, outside a law school class. But, there have been thousands of threads on hundreds of websites about those decisions, dealing with every issue under the sun except arguing the points of law in the decisions themselves.
I have no idea how you can say that with a straight face. There IS no argument regarding SC decisions that doesn't deal with the points of law in those decisions themselves. Opponents of Roe v Wade consistently call it an "activist" decision by claiming that calling abortion a "right to privacy" under the the Due Process clause in the 14th Amendment is bad law. It's physically impossible to discuss that decision without arguing the points of law in the decision itself. You are so desperate to be right that you don't even realize that you aren't making any sense.
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Because that issue wasn't before the Court in this instance.
For the, what, 5th time now?, neither was Austin or McConnell! Not before the Court. They reached. They decided to answer questions that weren't asked.
But since you like the ruling, you'll ignore that and resort to, "it's a done deal" style arguments, declaring no one can debate the ruling because a single Justice sided with 4 you agree with instead of the side that was right.
..and exactly how is spending millions on the ads that benefit them and their special interests by supporting a particular candidate, not contributing to the candidate? Please explain this to me. A candidate fund rasies to win elections which might include running ads to sway public opinion. The biased corrporations will be doing this for the candidate. Again, please explain your reasoning.
if the giant corporation picks one candidate or issue over another they are going to severely alienate the people who support the other candidate . Since most elections and issues fall in the 52%- 47% range how is it in the best interest of a corporation to alienate either 52% of their consumers or 47% of their consumers. it is not in the corporations best interest to do so.
Now 527s and unions have done this for years. the only difference if a corporation uses advertising dollars to support an issue those dollars must be put in there annual report.
Now look at some corporations.
GE if came out with ads supporting the Republican presidential nominee half of there consumers would no longer buy GE they would choose maytag or whirpool. No benefit will come to GE and they would hurt themselves.
Say Exxon came out with ads supporting a democrat from Texas running for the house who supported off shore drilling. the Exxon would alienate every person who did not believe in it . No benefit to Exxon's bottom line
Lets say Trojan condoms came out with ads supporting abortion. What would that benefit,they would be telling their consumers there products might fail.
Corporations will be held accountable to the people for their ads. Unions and 527s have no accountability.
if the giant corporation picks one candidate or issue over another they are going to severely alienate the people who support the other candidate . Since most elections and issues fall in the 52%- 47% range how is it in the best interest of a corporation to alienate either 52% of their consumers or 47% of their consumers. it is not in the corporations best interest to do so.
Now 527s and unions have done this for years. the only difference if a corporation uses advertising dollars to support an issue those dollars must be put in there annual report.
Now look at some corporations.
GE if came out with ads supporting the Republican presidential nominee half of there consumers would no longer buy GE they would choose maytag or whirpool. No benefit will come to GE and they would hurt themselves.
Say Exxon came out with ads supporting a democrat from Texas running for the house who supported off shore drilling. the Exxon would alienate every person who did not believe in it . No benefit to Exxon's bottom line
Lets say Trojan condoms came out with ads supporting abortion. What would that benefit,they would be telling their consumers there products might fail.
Corporations will be held accountable to the people for their ads. Unions and 527s have no accountability.
I get it now. If Saudi has holdings in corporations that are biased towards a particular candidate and push thier agenda via the candidate, Americans will cease purchasing fossil fuel. Makes perfect sense. I really do not mean to be sarcastic, but your post is a bit naive to the larger picture and ultimate ramifications
I get it now. If Saudi has holdings in corporations that are biased towards a particular candidate and push thier agenda via the candidate, Americans will cease purchasing fossil fuel. Makes perfect sense. I really do not mean to be sarcastic, but your post is a bit naive to the larger picture and ultimate ramifications
if the Saudis pushed a candidate through a corporation then the American people would know who that corporation was and who was pushing that candidate. I am sure that would not help the candidate.
I woudl rather know what money is pushing who so rather than hide behind 527 unions and move on
If a President can be brought up on impeachment charges for oral play but judges that have literally placed a For Sale signacross Lady Liberty get a pass, American natural person citizens deserve their coming disenfranchisement and serfdom.
Worth another 10 reps, but of course it won't let me.
if the Saudis pushed a candidate through a corporation then the American people would know who that corporation was and who was pushing that candidate. I am sure that would not help the candidate.
I woudl rather know what money is pushing who so rather than hide behind 527 unions and move on
Oh, we would know. So now we have to moniter every utility company, energy provider, telecommunications company, bank, pharmecuetical company and every corporate giant. We've done such a good job at monitering and regulating in the past, so I do not see the problem with giving them more corruption power. I remember when Verizon and other companies gave away personal information without consent of the customers and they were not even given a slap on the wrist and how many consumers dropped their phone service because of this? The Supreme Court judges, all Republican appointed I might add, just furthered the cause for democracy demolition. If you insist on making excuses and defending this, that is your perogative...the march towards Corporatism and Fascism depends on people such as yourself. I'm done here.
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