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Ah yes, but it's always been an uneasy coexistence hasn't it? Religion has dominated for the vast majority of human history forcing men of science to meet secretly on pain of death by immolation at the stake. Comparatively speaking it hasn't been long since declaring the world round or that it orbited around the sun was a Vatican sanctioned crime.
But men of reason fought the fight back then and we will continue now and as long as it takes until we finally see the day that superstition is properly trampled under foot like the pestilence that it is and always has been.
I've supported (in theory) liberal causes, but I vote libertarian; not too crazy about that liberal-conservative false dichotomy. Either way, I've found that the more, physics, biology and chemistry I learned, the more I became an aesthetic.
If you study organic/inorganic chemistry you see that self replicating molecules are quite common, and abiogenesis just further solidifies the specifics. While research in genetics and DNA has practically proved beyond a reasonable doubt that man evolved from other primates (human chromosome #2 the final nail in that coffin).
For the record, I didn't post that. I think you meant to type Quick Enough's name, but mine's up there by mistake. I'd never post anything that stupid. I'm not angry, just sayin'
My sincerest apologies, Mac. I was having hideous problems with the quote feature yesterday, and I'm sorry you got misattributed in the process!
You know, that's a good point. I tend not to make that mistake, but I can see how most Abrahamics would do that. I guess what I notice is that there is more atheism/agnosticism on the left than the right. Granted it's anecdotal, but it's just what I've noticed and prompted me to post this thread.
Thanks for sharing.
I think you're probably right; there probably is more on the left overall. Just maybe not as much as people tend to think.
Pagans-- other than the ones who get all sparkly and live at RenFaires and rename themselves things like Lady Arianwen Flutterbunnyunicorn-- tend to be a slippery lot. I get mistaken for Catholic (because I'm a religion geek and can quote the CCC), Pentecostal (because of the way I dress and because I don't wear makeup), and at one point, Muslima. I'm told that in some parts of the rural south people who wear pentacles are mistaken for Jews-- never tested that one because I don't wear a pent. I think people tend not to see things that don't fit their expectations, though, unless it's really glaring.
Ah yes, but it's always been an uneasy coexistence hasn't it? Religion has dominated for the vast majority of human history forcing men of science to meet secretly on pain of death by immolation at the stake. Comparatively speaking it hasn't been long since declaring the world round or that it orbited around the sun was a Vatican sanctioned crime.
But men of reason fought the fight back then and we will continue now and as long as it takes until we finally see the day that superstition is properly trampled under foot like the pestilence that it is and always has been.
Well that certainly sounds good until you understand that it was scientists in the second century who postulated the Geocentric Theory in the first place, not the Christian Church. And the Vatican didn't burn Copernicus at the stake, in fact Copernicus lived a long life as a devout Catholic who had no run-ins whatsover with the Vatican, even after he published his works.
Most scientists of the recent and distant past had the tacit approval of the church. in fact scientists were very often integral parts of the clerical hierarchy.
That being said, it also should be noted that for every earth shattering discovery or breakthrough which changed the way we view our universe, there have been dozens of other discoveries and breakthroughs which have proven to be wrong and have had horrific consequences for mankind.
Bloodletting anyone?
Scientists and "men of reason" have always required the oversight of skeptical eyes.
Religion is in the realm of faith and science in the realm of fact. Sometimes they overlap. Both can be abused by tyrannical men that would be kings.
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