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Old 02-09-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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You dont say?

Ron Paul: ‘Neocon influence’ is infiltrating tea parties | Raw Story (http://rawstory.com/2010/02/paul-cautions-neocon-influence-infiltrating-tea-parties/ - broken link)
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Like this is a shock.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The "new" Republican Party ?

Same old dog in sheep's clothing
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Old 02-09-2010, 11:13 PM
 
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The "new" Republican Party ?

Same old dog in sheep's clothing
Well, the Repulican Party may kiss the White House hope good bye if they become identified with this movement as they'll lose most hispanic votes.

Last edited by learningCA; 02-09-2010 at 11:29 PM..
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:10 AM
 
Location: ✶✶✶✶
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Mainly, they'll once again alienate independent voters. Especially if somebody like Sarah Palin ends up being the nominee. The GOP has not learned its lesson - they can no longer ride "the base" to victory. Yes, this might even mean moving more to the center. I guess they're more committed to the ideology than they are to winning elections. The wingnuts don't decide who wins. Independent voters do. And from the look of it, this Tea Party stuff looks to be the false prophet when it comes to breaking the two-party oligopoly unless they resist this neocon nonsense and just becomes part of the same old GOP. By dropping a half million to listen to Palin read notes off her hand, it appears this is what they want to do.

Not that the Democrats are much better, mind. A move toward the middle would do them well too.
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:39 AM
 
Location: OB
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Default drop it like it is cause logic is hot

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Well, the Repulican Party may kiss the White House hope good bye if they become identified with this movement as they'll lose most hispanic votes.
Alright. Bell curve style. Ron Paul Supporters (RPS) are not part of the normal distribution of Republicans. They (RPS) say they are Republicans but are matter-fact outliers and are a few deviations away of mean center from what the major majority of Republicans identify with.

"Ron Paul Republicans" are Isolationists. Ask a Ron Paul Republican if they voted for Reagan...!????
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:00 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The partisan squabbling is futile. Stop wasting your time trying to prove you and your "wing" is better than the other guy and his "wing".

The basic conflicts of ideology are but distractions from the underlying issue: Are you a predator or are you prey?

Under American law, starting with the Declaration of Independence, we know that government has two jobs:
1. secure rights,
2. govern those who consent.
We know or should know that inalienable rights (endowed by our Creator - not "given" by government) include life, liberty, property, and so forth.

We should also recognize that involuntary servitude, labor for the benefit of another, absent conviction for a crime, is unconstitutional. (13th amendment)

So if you've come this far, you may begin questioning the beliefs you've been taught all your life.

If you haven't knowingly, willingly, or intentionally given consent, then where did the government get the delegated power to:
A. Tax you and your property,
B. Compel you to do military service,
C. Compel you to do jury duty,
D. Compel you to obey,
E. Compel you to enroll in Social Security before you can work in your own country,
F. Compel you to act, that results in an injury to your inalienable rights to life, liberty, property, etc, etc.
I've asked government officials, and those who do answer, say we gave consent. It's in the law, in the public record, for all to read. . . but few Americans bother to read the law.

More info here
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:17 AM
 
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Alright. Bell curve style. Ron Paul Supporters (RPS) are not part of the normal distribution of Republicans. They (RPS) say they are Republicans but are matter-fact outliers and are a few deviations away of mean center from what the major majority of Republicans identify with.

"Ron Paul Republicans" are Isolationists. Ask a Ron Paul Republican if they voted for Reagan...!????
Well many republicans do support Ron Paul. In addition there are democrats that support him as well with his isolationist views.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:20 AM
 
Location: OB
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Default There's really only one right answer

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Well many republicans do support Ron Paul.
Outside of Texas and California, not many.

You didn't answer my question. I'm curious. Did you vote for Reagan? Would you have???
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:23 AM
 
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Outside of Texas and California, not many.

You didn't answer my question. I'm curious. Did you vote for Reagan? Would you have???
I was too young to vote when Reagan was in power. The only time I may have voted for him would be perhaps in 1980.
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