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Old 02-21-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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OR, how's about they actually SPENT all of it right then rather than a small percentage of it.
The Admin is spending it and stepping up from the time table they originally planned. I am sure you are well aware of that. They also have to have all the arrangements and structure finished and in place so that many of the projects can get going. I am sure you are aware of that also. The 400-500 billion yet to be spent will result in increasing benefit thru this year and next.
The Admin will be working to enact additional jobs plans to provide even more job growth. I am sure you are aware of this, as well. The arguments about his are hollow but some people will continue to spew them. I am sure you will do that as well. Your objective is very clear.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:11 PM
 
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The Admin is spending it and stepping up from the time table they originally planned. I am sure you are well aware of that. They also have to have all the arrangements and structure finished and in place so that many of the projects can get going. I am sure you are aware of that also. The 400-500 billion yet to be spent will result in increasing benefit thru this year and next.
The Admin will be working to enact additional jobs plans to provide even more job growth. I am sure you are aware of this, as well. The arguments about his are hollow but some people will continue to spew them. I am sure you will do that as well. Your objective is very clear.
Enacting job plans wont do squat. People need money to spend and they don't have it. Give them the money and the jobs will fallow.

Or Hire them dirrectly and that will do the same thing but just giving them money is faster.
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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Macro Vs. Micro

When the kid takes a treat to school in kindergarten. The teacher takes it away and says don't bring a treat to school unless you bring enough for everyone. That should be everyone's first lesson in the diference between what is good for you and what is good for everyone.

The reason is that in some schools there are kids that can't aford a treat going to school with rich kids. (I went to one of those schools) It isn't fair to have something that others can't. There are those that can't earn more than minimum wage. It should be set high enough for them to live on. It's like not bringing a treat to school unless you bring enough for everyone.
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Admin is spending it and stepping up from the time table they originally planned. I am sure you are well aware of that. They also have to have all the arrangements and structure finished and in place so that many of the projects can get going. I am sure you are aware of that also. The 400-500 billion yet to be spent will result in increasing benefit thru this year and next.
The Admin will be working to enact additional jobs plans to provide even more job growth. I am sure you are aware of this, as well. The arguments about his are hollow but some people will continue to spew them. I am sure you will do that as well. Your objective is very clear.
Well I would say that your arguments are hallow as well as you are projecting what this administration is doing in the future without inside knowledge.

And I am not aware that Obama's administration has everything in place as you say ..they've had a year, do they need another year ?

What you are posting is what you hope happens in the future.
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Macro Vs. Micro

When the kid takes a treat to school in kindergarten. The teacher takes it away and says don't bring a treat to school unless you bring enough for everyone. That should be everyone's first lesson in the diference between what is good for you and what is good for everyone.

The reason is that in some schools there are kids that can't aford a treat going to school with rich kids. (I went to one of those schools) It isn't fair to have something that others can't. There are those that can't earn more than minimum wage. It should be set high enough for them to live on. It's like not bringing a treat to school unless you bring enough for everyone.
That's socialism, isn't it ?
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Old 02-21-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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That's socialism, isn't it ?
Not really. that was ment for a diferent thread. The livable minimum wage thread. The purpouse of the minimum wage is to keep the working poor from starving.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Well I would say that your arguments are hallow as well as you are projecting what this administration is doing in the future without inside knowledge.

And I am not aware that Obama's administration has everything in place as you say ..they've had a year, do they need another year ?

What you are posting is what you hope happens in the future.
I can see if you were a GOP supporter, why you would think your Representatives would be doing nothing. But with the Obama Admin, I find it hard to think that the Dems are doing nothing. I listen to what they say, and they say there are several measure in the works for jobs related legislation.

FT.com / US / Politics & Foreign policy - Stripped-down US jobs bill limps to vote

I have no reason to doubt that, nor any reason to doubt what Obama has said about the Stimulus roll out.
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Old 02-21-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I can see if you were a GOP supporter, why you would think your Representatives would be doing nothing. But with the Obama Admin, I find it hard to think that the Dems are doing nothing. I listen to what they say, and they say there are several measure in the works for jobs related legislation.

FT.com / US / Politics & Foreign policy - Stripped-down US jobs bill limps to vote

I have no reason to doubt that, nor any reason to doubt what Obama has said about the Stimulus roll out.
Ah, but I'm not. And I don't see "your" Representatives doing much either.

China had a smaller stimulus then us yet they have more tangible outcomes from it.

TerraLex - Article - China’s Stimulus Package

China also announced:
16 new R&D centers for alternative energy work
world's fastest high speed train

What do we announce at the one year anniversary of our stimulus:
John Murtha's airport renovation work ?
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:05 PM
 
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Ah, but I'm not. And I don't see "your" Representatives doing much either.

China had a smaller stimulus then us yet they have more tangible outcomes from it.

TerraLex - Article - China’s Stimulus Package

China also announced:
16 new R&D centers for alternative energy work
world's fastest high speed train

What do we announce at the one year anniversary of our stimulus:
John Murtha's airport renovation work ?
They are economicly in a very diferent place than we are. They don't have amountain of debt on there backs.
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They are economicly in a very diferent place than we are. They don't have amountain of debt on there backs.
Well we did not use the stimulus money to pay down the debt.
We used that money supposedly to create millions upon millions of new jobs or save jobs. So I think the comparison is fair.

China used the stimulus to jumpstart their economy.
US used part of the stimulus to jumpstart their economy.

One year later..who did better work with that money ?
Who has more to show for it that benefits a greater number of people ?

Our political system is to blame. I don't blame the Dems nor the Repubs.
I blame our corrupt political system for allowing things like the John Murtha airport renovation to even get funded, nevermind happen.

All that pork was the result of vote buying and each vote bought with pork was that much less less to spend on the American people.
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