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Old 03-02-2010, 09:43 AM
 
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There are a lot of things about Ron Paul I like, but until he relents with his gold standard stuff, I will still think of him as a bit of a nut.
Those "kookie" creditor nations, you know the ones that saved their money while the west pissed it away on crummy houses, don't seem to think it's a bad idea. By the way, you have any worthless gold? I'll take some of that scrap metal off your hands.

China admits to building up stockpile of gold

India buys half of IMF's gold for sale; who's next?
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:45 AM
 
Location: PA
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You have to sides one side doesn't want to run your life, your personal responsibility and the other side feel as thou they are OWED a house, a job and everything else via the government or anyone who "has money"
Jobs come and go, its a natural situation no matter who RUNS the economy.
The question is who is running the economy and destroying it and should anyone be running it at all.
WE DO NOT HAVE A FREE MARKET that is an illusion and we don't have capitalism. The government manages many things they have no business in. They also have no business telling banks they will back loans so ANYONE CAN get a house. The federal reserve is printing money so the government can spend and spend with little or no "interest" which is why the government is spending the way they do.
They create bubbles on purpose then appear as the savior to a problem they created and you idiots run to them to fix it.

On another subject...
Those who work at McDonald's and Walmart are not and should not feel as thou the rest of the country via tax dollars and or anything else OWE them anything. If you don't like your job at these places GET ANOTHER ONE! Nobody is forcing you to work for min wage. These are not REAL jobs that anyone should be supporting themselves should live on. A job does not mean you will be TAKEN CARE OF. The right job will make it easier for you to afford to live and support yourself. Anyone who thinks working at these places is a financial future or brings economic stability needs a reality check. These jobs are for those who need a second job, high school kids, college students and those who just want to do something and are of an older age and retired. If you worked in management a McDonald's or walmart and applied yourself I can see how these jobs will help you economically otherwise working cash register is not going to pay the bills.
The government OWES you nothing other then what you have been paying into it.
We pay taxes and not getting anything only most of our paycheck is going to Washington and what do we get.... endless wars, bailouts for companies, them telling us how to live our lives, letting groups lobby them to create laws that conflict the constitution and a individuals rights. Taxes are needed to run the basic defense and roads, and general functions of the federal government is needed. Those of you who don't know EDUCATION, FIRE, POLICE, comes from local and state taxes. I waste to much time explaining a system on which you have become so dependent that you can't ever think if you NEED it in the first place. It is wasteful and corrupt and the only one who has the right state of mind is Ron Paul because he understands what the function of government is suppose to be.
Government is needed to preserve the rights of individuals, defend our nation and that is it. It is not needed to take care of the social and economic issues of individuals. The rich and or the elite you liberals and socialist speak of are repeating the benefits of government power. Its not because they aren't TAXED enough that is the most insane stance these people come up with. The elite are mostly those who use laws and the FED to get money to support a system in which makes it easy for them to adjust the market.
When you can control the money of individuals you control their direction, when you can control the money supply, the interest rates, price fixing, building nations on borrowed money you can control a nation. Corporations are not evil, businesses and CEO's are not evil they are bi product of big government intervention.
A conservative like Ron Paul is defined by one thing. Courage.
Courage is when you stand up for your principles. It takes courage when your body is racing in fear to do something about a nation corrupt and controlling.
Americans no longer have the courage they would rather have someone take care of them from cradle to grave even at the expense of their freedom. You no longer work for your individual rights, your paycheck is reduced every week in taxes and you work for the scraps the elected elite will throw you. They sell you cash back income tax deductions like they are giving you free money. ITS YOUR MONEY LOOK AT YOUR PAYCHECK!!!! See that tax it went the government so they can "take care of you" Are you taken care of yet? Washington is not fighting for anyone other then the expansion of itself of which you gave them the power when you agree to let them walk all over your paycheck, your social liberty and let them TELL YOUR RIGHTS! Solutions are easy when they don't involve the government.
That also means the corporations can use them to manage the free market.
There is nothing free about this market corporations paid off government a long time ago which is why you have health insurance companies making laws so you cant buy insurance across state lines. You can't buy drugs from another country, cheaper.
That is the work of the government GETTING involved in something they have no business in. I'm not suggesting we get off welfare I'm suggesting you the people start thinking of a better solution. I can think of many but for many of you it would mean personal responsibility and great rewards of which many of you are not ready to be unplugged from a system built to control you. Your a machine so designed to believe in "helping" people via the government system that your brain has lost all function and reason. Courage is not in your vocab, freedom and responsibility appear also to have become easier to ignore when you know government is your big brother watching over you. Government is watching... watching what you do, where you drive, who you talk to, how many guns you have, how many children, who you can and can't marry, what religion you belong to, how much you make a year, what you can listen to on TV, on radio, what you can put into your body, what you can say, and the day you are born they give you a SS number so they can track you, put you into a working "social security" system built on robbing you to pay for the next person who is about to retire. Cradle to Grave
No matter what you believe the truth is written on the wall, I read it as Liberty is dead in government it only belongs in the minds and hearts of individuals who still long to be free. I have no master, most of you are puppets!
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Empathy breeds dependancy.
For some reason, this reminded me of...
"Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice†- Adolf Hitler
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Yeah, dammit...I AM the conservative academic elitist! Then again, so is my advisor but he's much more quiet about it. Back to the topic at hand...I congratulate anyone returning money to the treasury, just was curious as to the RELATIVE size of the efficiency in gov't. If the district is tiny in size/productivity ($10M gdp) but brings back $100K, that's 1%. If the district is much bigger ($100M gdp) but brings back 200K, that's only .2% if I'm correct. I'm sure it's not a trivial exercise to identify the figures.
I will let the professor do the math.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Never miss that chance to take a partisan stab!
Sorry your accusations do not hold water since I do not support either party.Just yesterday I was in Bunning's corner who is a {R},when he or anyone else is right I am on their side.There is nothing partisan about me I have no problem pointing out BS from either side of the aisle.I call as I see them.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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For some reason, this reminded me of...
"Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice†- Adolf Hitler
"Forced humanitarianism is equivalent to no humanitarianism"

-Me
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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"Forced humanitarianism is equivalent to no humanitarianism"

-Me
Forced humanitarianism... cute but Hitler didn't care for the specifics, instead talked humanitarianism in general sense. You can debate with him later.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Forced humanitarianism... cute, but Hitler was talking humanitarianism. You can debate with him later.
Only the cutest quotes for my biggest fans
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Only the cutest quotes for my biggest fans
Actually, I like Hitlers quotes quite a bit. They make a lot of sense, and provide an insight into minds like his, and the sheeple that flocked behind him.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Actually, I like Hitlers quotes quite a bit.
It's a pretty good quote but I like mine better (so much so it's my new status).

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They make a lot of sense, and provide an insight into minds like his, and the sheeple that flocked behind him.
I agree.
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