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View Poll Results: are you in favor of reconciliation to pass the health care bill?
yes 42 40.38%
no 60 57.69%
not sure 2 1.92%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-04-2010, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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i am a little confused about what is going on now. is it correct that the house is now going to vote on the senate bill as it was originally written, with no modifications at all?
If they have enough votes, yes.
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Old 03-04-2010, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I'm really surprised the Democrats are stupid enough to try reconcilliation. They are going to be out of power for a generation.
I will be harder for the Dems to use it, as they have so little experience in doing so, as compared to the Repubs.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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I will be harder for the Dems to use it, as they have so little experience in doing so, as compared to the Repubs.
Never mind they're taking over 1/6th of the economy in the face of widespread public opposition.

Anything the republicans reconciled will be childs play compared to this.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:07 AM
 
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Never mind they're taking over 1/6th of the economy in the face of widespread public opposition.

Anything the republicans reconciled will be childs play compared to this.

Agreed. This will ensure the defeat of the dems in the races of 2010 and 2012. It is a very good thing for the republicans and will be Obama's Waterloo. At least the country has awakened to who this guy is and his agenda.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Never mind they're taking over 1/6th of the economy in the face of widespread public opposition.

Anything the republicans reconciled will be childs play compared to this.
OK - assuming that "they" are the Democrats, how are they "taking over 1/6th of the economy?" Are the evil Democrats planning to take over all the insurance companies?

Putting Americans In Control of Their Health Care | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/health-care-meeting/reform-means-you - broken link)
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:43 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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no, the health care bill needs to be gotten rid of. the people want affordable health care, but not at the expense of having the goverment run it.
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Old 03-04-2010, 06:53 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Reconciliation, by either party, is just a way of saying that they cannot get something done under the rules that they have set up.

It is a tool of a majority that wants a nanny state by allowing, in spite of legitimate opposition, an unwanted bill to be passed when it does not have sufficient support.

Bad move.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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no, the health care bill needs to be gotten rid of. the people want affordable health care, but not at the expense of having the goverment run it.
I wish your fears were founded. Fact is, Obama's and the Senate plan do anything but have the Govt run health care. In fact they increase private insurance's role in it.
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Old 03-04-2010, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Given that without changes Medicare and Socila Security will collapse and we will each get a "Voucher" to go find Health Care for an elderly diabetic with high blood pressure on the open market, I'd say do it
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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I wish your fears were founded. Fact is, Obama's and the Senate plan do anything but have the Govt run health care. In fact they increase private insurance's role in it.
This Bill is simply an incremental step toward a single-payer system. Hopefully, this will eventually be rolled back by a conservative-led Congress next year or soon thereafter, and hopefully by using the same reconciliation tactic.
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