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Bill Clinton did, GWB did, Reagan did. But Obama has not given an inch. As a result he has accomplished virtually nothing. He could probably get some kind of health care plan passed if he coupled it with tax cuts or some other republican agenda item. It's basic negotiating skills. You give a little so you can get a little. Buying a house, a used car, new salary, etc.
I guess this is what we get for electing a rookie who's never worked in a business, never negotiated a deal, and never worked with people with opposing viewpoints. He's learning on the job and we're all paying for it.
Good points. And the bolded part is key. During the campaign, questions about his lack of managment/leadership experience were often met with "well, look at what a brilliant campaign he managed". And he did.
But it's pretty easy to run an organization (campaign) that is staffed fully by people who share the same visions and goals, who are there of their own accord. Way different to inherit a group of people, half of whom have drastically different ideals and goals. It's clear that he doesn't have the management, leadership or negotiating skills needed.
He could've, should've made healthcare happen by now. He had the majority needed. He had the support of the American people. The fact that it is where it is now falls squarely on his shoulders. As you noted-he's a rookie and we're paying for his on-the-job training.
Absolutely. Even when he embraces their proposals and says he'll include them in the health care bill, they turn around and say that they still can't vote for it. If anyone's unable to compromise, it's the stubborn Republicans.
WHY do they need to compromise?
Obammy and the Dems CAN do ANYTHING they WANT.....including....PASSING HC reform legislation!
THEY.....don't want to listen to the Pubs.
Just one willing accomplice....that's all.
Just ONE.
BOO HOO if they can't get that ONE Publican.
But....they still need to bribe plenty of their own too.
Pay attention to the news, would ya?
The DEMS HAVE the CONTROL.......to pass a BILL....and seal their own fate.
What country do you live in? Obama has done a LOT of compromising, especially on the health care bill, it is the Republicans that refuse to play, unless they get EVERYTHING that they want and NOTHING that they do not want.
Bill Clinton did, GWB did, Reagan did. But Obama has not given an inch. As a result he has accomplished virtually nothing. He could probably get some kind of health care plan passed if he coupled it with tax cuts or some other republican agenda item. It's basic negotiating skills. You give a little so you can get a little. Buying a house, a used car, new salary, etc.
I guess this is what we get for electing a rookie who's never worked in a business, never negotiated a deal, and never worked with people with opposing viewpoints. He's learning on the job and we're all paying for it.
If you think you're smarter than Obama (and it sounds like you do), then call the White House and give them your advice.
i'm not smarter than Obama....happy now?
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You do know the the Republicans have been screaming for this ever since it became clear that they would try to kill this measure every chance they got, and the President finally got tired of their B.S....now they want to start over!!....give me a break. It's nothing more than an opportunity to say "NO" some more.
i don't know what to say, other than, i don't agree with this Healthcare plan, and i'm not speaking on behalf of Republicans, only myself. and i'm betting there are others out there, just like myself that think the same.
He has compromised over and over and over again, the health care bill has many GOP ideas in it. The GOP still says no. Obama has compromised FAR more than the GOP has and IMHO has probably compromised more than he should have.
If that's true, then Republicans shouldn't be complaining at all about the health care bill.
Too much at risk here to give in.
Republicans are not Obama's problem - the American people are - and the Democrat House members who know their people don't want this crapola are Obama's problem.
Good points. And the bolded part is key. During the campaign, questions about his lack of managment/leadership experience were often met with "well, look at what a brilliant campaign he managed". And he did.
But it's pretty easy to run an organization (campaign) that is staffed fully by people who share the same visions and goals, who are there of their own accord. Way different to inherit a group of people, half of whom have drastically different ideals and goals. It's clear that he doesn't have the management, leadership or negotiating skills needed.
He could've, should've made healthcare happen by now. He had the majority needed. He had the support of the American people. The fact that it is where it is now falls squarely on his shoulders. As you noted-he's a rookie and we're paying for his on-the-job training.
Thank you for realizing that the buck stops with Obama himself. This is what happens when you vote Inexperience in, to make the most important decisions regarding our lives. Any excuse now blaming some one other then Obama, is just a freaking joke..
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....give me a break. It's nothing more than an opportunity to say "NO" some more.
