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." Obama knows that secret too.
Yes, doctor. We have heard your side for far too long. Health care is broken and we need to fix it... not leave it as it is..... like you would like. The republican party had eight years to make it the agenda, and I would have much rather spent the money we are spending in Iraq (Since 2003) on the USA's HEALTHCARE! What are your budget projections on our war in Iraq?
Isn't it ODD that in all the talk of the "right to health care" no one bothered
to think how "wrong" that was?
Giving health care is a government regulated privilege, not a right. If you
practice medicine without a license (government permission) you will be
prosecuted.
So if giving care without permission was criminalized, then how can you have a
"right" to health care without government's permission?
You cannot be treated, unless by government permission.
You cannot buy medicine without first getting a permission slip (prescription)
from a government licensed person.
You cannot buy permitted medicine from anyone but a government licensed person,
who buys it from another government permitted seller.
In America, the people have no rights - only government granted privileges -
when it comes to medical care.
I am on COBRA now. I have a pre existing condition. Soon I will be paying $700 a month for catastrophic only. Does that seem right to you? No, not to me either. Now with the high risk pools that are to come into place, I'll be able to PURCHASE and PAY FOR insurance that is worth something. Tell me, do you have a problem with this concept?
Yes I do. Here's the thing. I don't have a pre-existing condition that affects my health care costs. Lucky? Yup. Might I get a disease or accident down the road? Maybe. But I shouldn't be FORCED to subsidize your health care insurance because of something that life handed YOU. Cold hearted? No. No more coldhearted that thinking a thief shouldn't break into my house to steal something that I have that they don't. Especially since I don't know what decisions or choices you've made in your life to put you in the position that you don't want to pay money for insurance.
Can anyone explain to me where it says I MUST have something taken from me to benefit you, by force or threats? We live in a free country, not a socialist or communist country.
Yes I do. Here's the thing. I don't have a pre-existing condition that affects my health care costs. Lucky? Yup. Might I get a disease or accident down the road? Maybe. But I shouldn't be FORCED to subsidize your health care insurance because of something that life handed YOU. Cold hearted? No. No more coldhearted that thinking a thief shouldn't break into my house to steal something that I have that they don't. Especially since I don't know what decisions or choices you've made in your life to put you in the position that you don't want to pay money for insurance.
Can anyone explain to me where it says I MUST have something taken from me to benefit you, by force or threats? We live in a free country, not a socialist or communist country.
I suppose, if your neighbor's house caught fire, and the big red truck came to save what it could, you object to paying for that big red truck. Hey, after all, it wasn't your house that caught fire.
Originally Posted by doctorhugo --------------------------------------------------------------------- ." Obama knows that secret too.
Yes, doctor. We have heard your side for far too long. Health care is broken and we need to fix it... not leave it as it is..... like you would like. The republican party had eight years to make it the agenda, and I would have much rather spent the money we are spending in Iraq (Since 2003) on the USA's HEALTHCARE! What are your budget projections on our war in Iraq?
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nice try at the attempt at excerpting a portion of my quote! Wassup wit dat!
Instead of obfuscating, using misdirection and changing the subject I raised why not be refreshing for a change and address the issue I brought up. Afraid to? Afraid it might reveal you for whom you are?
That subject was personal responsibility, apparently an obscure notion to you and your ilk as all your behaviors advocate for irresponsibility.
Where do you supose the monies will come to pay for your wonderful healthcare when the rich leave as they will and only the middle-class working folks are the tax base for the tax and spend demonRATs and unemployment is widespread in a failing economy? By then y ou clowns will likely have extended unemployment insurance out to 4 or 5 years worth in your 'populist' attempt to continue endearing yourselves to the unwashed masses.
Do you jokers never tire of dragging Little Georgie-boy Bush out as the 'whipping boy"? How many healthcare bills were introduced in those 8 years by the whining, do-nothing demonRATs? Helllloooooo! Cat got your tongue?
Just as an aside, because it relates to that comment, Little Georgie-boy made a try in his State of the Union address in January 2007 to initiate some tax reform in the healthcare field as a starter. He laid out a plan to convert the current tax preference for employer-paid insurance into one in which all households, including those buying insurance on their own, would get the same standard deduction ($7,500 for individuals and $15,000 for families). It goes without saying that whenever the right treads in the area of a piece of "social" legislation the hypocritical demonRATs fail to support it, being altruistcally arrogant and seeing all social matters as their exclusive purview. In 2007 they didn't disappoint as the Bush proposal was not seriously considered by the demonRATic-controlled Congress. Are you paying attention at all Mr. Werone? I'm giving you REAL history, not redacted or rewritten versions.
What?? Why wouldn't someone with a pre-existing condition be able to buy from a high risk pool? That's kind of the point of the pool.
If Anotherday could buy insurance across state lines there is no reason he couldn't buy into the high risk pool. He's coming off of COBRA, he has a pre-existing condition....the pool was designed for folks like him.
Just calm down. The answers are just a google search away, something I already did. Don't roll your eyes at me if you don't know what "state high risk pools" are all about. Here is some information from my state.
Colorado - CoverColorado A non-profit entity created by the Colorado Legislature to provide medical insurance for eligible Colorado residents who, because of a pre-existing medical condition, are unable to get coverage from private insurers.
This is not private, for profit insurance. It is for Colorado residents.
Here's more:
If you have been denied health insurance due to a pre-existing medical condition, or have exhausted your COBRA benefits, we may be able to help. While CoverColorado is not a low income plan, this may be your best option if you are unable to obtain coverage elsewhere and can afford it.
There are a variety of funding sources, including taxes. This has nothing to do with buying private insurance across state lines. It's a totally different issue.
I suppose, if your neighbor's house caught fire, and the big red truck came to save what it could, you object to paying for that big red truck. Hey, after all, it wasn't your house that caught fire.
I would object if we paid the same amount, and he smoked in bed, lit matches and tossed them into the corner. And if he paid less than me, because he couldn't afford it, because he spent it on stuff. Yes, I would object.
But I also know, that I would be out there with a hose and buckets to help him save his house. And I would invite him in to stay while he rebuilt. As a choice.
Years ago, the CSD that I work in had a policy that if you wanted the big red truck to come, you paid a fee. Your choice. And if you didn't pay, your house burned. It's called INSURANCE. When you're forced to pay, it's called SOCIALISM.
I'd be surprised if 10% of the morons in congress even read the bill before voting on it. Meh, people don't care. Pathetic.
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Wassup wit dat!
