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Originally Posted by Randomstudent
As much as I like consensus and use it in small groups it is not possible among 6-7 billion persons. Just look at the Congress, there are only 535 of them and they cannot agree on anything even things as seemingly obvious as bans on murder, and thievery are not agreed to by some persons. The fact of the matter if you can get a bunch of people in a group to organize, then those people have power against smaller and unorganized groups. That gives them the opportunity to oppress others. So in order to protect yourself from the greater problems that arise from being oppressed by another group, people must bit the bullet on some things even if they don't agree.
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This is precisely why large modern centralized authorities are completely ridiculous and inhuman. There are no real voluntary societies, and thus no real freedom. They are all barbarian states based soley on the use of force to oppress one group or another.