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Coch may be a closet homosexual ,
but at least he is an openly patriotic Jew ( antisem term: "zionist ") ...
It is true that many Jews in USA are corrupted by socialist ideas & cannot understand the tough reality in Israel. They think that Pals & Islamists are normal people & that the problems can be solved by....negotiations,dialogue,non violence & so on...
I call them "armchair Jews"...Many of them have never been in Israel...
As for Israelis against ..."settlements ",.this is a bitter story....Most of them are Arab "Jews " & converts...25% of Israeli citizens...
So my Israeli roommate is an "armchair Jew"? Interesting...
It is true that many Jews in USA are corrupted by socialist ideas & cannot understand the tough reality in Israel. They think that Pals & Islamists are normal people & that the problems can be solved by....negotiations,dialogue,non violence & so on...
I call them "armchair Jews"...Many of them have never been in Israel...
Love how you think you can paint us all with your hate-colored brush.
I've been to Israel -- have you?
I understand d@M# good and well what's going on there and why, and who all the "players" are and their goals. I assure you I know far more than you.
And yet I'm still a progressive Democrat who is a Jew who supports Israel but disagrees with some of her actions as much as I disagree with some of my own country's actions.
But leave it to a jingoist not to "get" that concept.
Love how you think you can paint us all with your hate-colored brush.
I've been to Israel -- have you?
I understand d@M# good and well what's going on there and why, and who all the "players" are and their goals. I assure you I know far more than you.
And yet I'm still a progressive Democrat who is a Jew who supports Israel but disagrees with some of her actions as much as I disagree with some of my own country's actions.
But leave it to a jingoist not to "get" that concept.
Exactly. Blind support of ANY country does not do the country any good. There are few people who could honestly say they support absolutely everything the US does- why should anyone support everything Israel does?
This Jewish Obama voter completely agrees with this. Senile old fool is now a conspiracy theorist. What a complete idiot.
Guy sits in a racist church with a racist pastor...says he didn't know.
Sorry, doesn't pass the laugh test.
Same pastor says "them Jews ain't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office."
“He’s gotta do what politicians do, Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza, Ethnic cleansing the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel.â€
“the Jewish vote, the A-I-P-A-C vote, that’s controlling him, that would not let him send representation to the Darfur Review Conference, that’s talking this craziness on this trip, cause they’re Zionists, they would not let him talk to someone who calls a spade what it is. “
Exactly. Blind support of ANY country does not do the country any good. There are few people who could honestly say they support absolutely everything the US does- why should anyone support everything Israel does?
Stupidity? Ignorance? Hate? Take your pick.
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Guy sits in a racist church with a racist pastor...says he didn't know.
Sorry, doesn't pass the laugh test.
Same pastor says "them Jews ain't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office."
“He’s gotta do what politicians do, Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza, Ethnic cleansing the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel.â€
“the Jewish vote, the A-I-P-A-C vote, that’s controlling him, that would not let him send representation to the Darfur Review Conference, that’s talking this craziness on this trip, cause they’re Zionists, they would not let him talk to someone who calls a spade what it is. “
Sorry, but I wasn't born yesterday.
You must have been, given than every one of those quotes were made after President Obama left his church.
I was 43-44 (?) before I ever heard a racist word come out of my father's mouth, and frankly, when it did, I was utterly shocked. Lived my whole life not knowing he had thoughts like that.
I wasn't born yesterday, either, so I understand timelines and logic.
Love how you think you can paint us all with your hate-colored brush.
I've been to Israel -- have you?
I understand d@M# good and well what's going on there and why, and who all the "players" are and their goals. I assure you I know far more than you.
And yet I'm still a progressive Democrat who is a Jew who supports Israel but disagrees with some of her actions as much as I disagree with some of my own country's actions.
But leave it to a jingoist not to "get" that concept.
Where did u see hate propagandised by me,except for healthy & justified hate against criminals,terrorists,dictators,tyrants etc...
If u cannot understand that I am one of the most pro-semite commentators of CDF... try again...
By "progressive " u mean socialist,right..? Do u like the gov to tax the Jews unfairly & disproportionately,because they r the highest income group..?
Billions of jewish tax money go to the gov sector of USA,instead of a portion of them going to support Israel...
The Jews in USA don't have the votes,they can only acquire economic power. Progressives,in their anti-rich menace,are the worst defacto antisemites...
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It is true that many Jews in USA are corrupted by socialist ideas & cannot understand the tough reality in Israel. They think that Pals & Islamists are normal people & that the problems can be solved by....negotiations,dialogue,non violence & so on...
I call them "armchair Jews"...Many of them have never been in Israel...
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And I'd call an American of any religion who places the interests of any other country ahead of America's interests a traitor.
I don't see what's so anti-semitic about the Obama administration condemning the new settlements.
Many people in Israel are doing the same thing, and many American Jews are also condemning the settlements as well. They are only hurting the Middle East peace process. Israel is wrong in building them.
The only thing that will aide in the Middle East peace process would be the destruction of Israel. No Jew wants to see this.
Simple politics...
Ethinc identity is different than citizenship...
A Jew in USA belongs to the Jewish nation,but since he is a U.S citizen & not an Israeli citizen,he certainly should place USA interests ahead of Israel interests...
Now,since both nations & both states are the superpowers of civilisation,their interests should be...99% identical...
Definition of "armchair Jew"...
Usually...
"Natural" socialist ( "Taxes are for the general good, Repubs are lackeys of the rich, Dems take it from the rich & give it to the poor" ).
Anti-gun ( "guns kill people" )
Anti-capital penalty ( "Barbaric,cruel,unessecary,counterproductive,shame ful")
Criminal lover ( "the murderer is an innocent misunderstood victim of social factors,the society is guilty").
But definitely ...
Appeaser,pacifist ( "No "invasion " in Gaza or Southern Lebanon,negotiations,talks,mediation,no preemptive strikes...)
Equalisator ( "both sides must compromise,share the distance,meet in the middle","Pal & Jewish mothers mourn alike")
Ethnic jerk ( "Pals,Arabs,Muslims are civil people ,just like Americans & Europeans,u can reason with them & negotiate in good faith ")...
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