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I know some say we need to finish what we started better or worse, but at this point we need to let Iraq go its path whatever it might be. We can stay there 10 years more and doubtful that would secure a "democracy" friendly to western nations. Iraq might turn out ok, but America being there won't have much impact on that in the end.
I was listening to NPR radio yesterday, and they had an author who wrote a book about the war in Iraq, and he was involved in the fighting that day. His said that day was one of the heaviest days of fighting in the war, it was during the surge. He also said those journalists were in the area with the most intense fighting, and no one was notified that they were in the area.
To go into a war zone like that, with nothing to distinguish them from insurgents/terrorists, was the height of stupidity. Usually, you will see the press either wearing some kind of jacket or helmet with the word "PRESS" on it.
The unanswered question remains - why were Reuters journalists embedded with terrorists/insurgents?
I know some say we need to finish what we started better or worse, but at this point we need to let Iraq go its path whatever it might be. We can stay there 10 years more and doubtful that would secure a "democracy" friendly to western nations. Iraq might turn out ok, but America being there won't have much impact on that in the end.
After this last election, the violence is ramping back up again.
After this last election, the violence is ramping back up again.
It doesn't matter who is in office, the insurgency will continue regardless. America may up a battle against insurgents and temporarily curb them, but in the long run it won't matter.
The only thing that will matter long term is when we get out and let the chips fall where they may by letting Iraqis take it to themselves, unfortunately it will be a mess , but it wil lbe that way whether we leave now or try to stay years more.
It comes down to America thought we could control Iraq and win their minds, we thought they wanted us there, and maybe a few did, but we botched up on thinking the masses would rejoice on us.
"WikiLeaks also does not point out that at least one man was carrying an AK-47 assault rifle. He is seen swinging the weapon below his waist while standing next to the man holding the RPG.
"It gives you a limited perspective," said Capt. Jack Hanzlik, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command. "The video only tells you a portion of the activity that was happening that day. Just from watching that video, people cannot understand the complex battles that occurred. You are seeing only a very narrow picture of the events."
Hanzlik said images gathered during a military investigation of the incident show multiple weapons around the dead bodies in the courtyard, including at least three RPGs.
"Julian Assange, a WikiLeaks editor, acknowledged to Fox News in an interview Tuesday evening that "it's likely some of the individuals seen in the video were carrying weapons."
Assange said his suspicions about the weapons were so strong that a draft version of the video they produced made specific reference to the AK-47s and RPGs.
Ultimately, Assange said, WikiLeaks became "unsure" about the weapons. He claimed the RPG could have been a camera tripod, so editors decided not to point it out."
To go into a war zone like that, with nothing to distinguish them from insurgents/terrorists, was the height of stupidity. Usually, you will see the press either wearing some kind of jacket or helmet with the word "PRESS" on it.
The unanswered question remains - why were Reuters journalists embedded with terrorists/insurgents?
Because they were JOURNALISTS maybe.......if they were in fact "embedded" with terrorists. Are journalist supposed to tell the story from ONLY ONE PERSPECTIVE, that of the U.S., rather than exploring all sides? I believe the term "embedded" is a term created by the U.S. military for journalists traveling with U.S. troops.........now why would such a term apply to journalists who were not traveling with U.S. troops? Do you suppose that the people fighting with the U.S. in Iraq are going to adopt our methods and procedures? Is it possible that journalists in Iraq have actually traveled around the country reporting WITHOUT being "embedded" with anyone at all? Is it possible that journalists have done stories in various places when they were NOT "embedded" with U.S. troops? The implication that those two journalists deserved to die and got what they DESERVED because they were where they were is disgusting.
It doesn't matter who is in office, the insurgency will continue regardless. America may up a battle against insurgents and temporarily curb them, but in the long run it won't matter.
The only thing that will matter long term is when we get out and let the chips fall where they may by letting Iraqis take it to themselves, unfortunately it will be a mess , but it wil lbe that way whether we leave now or try to stay years more.
It comes down to America thought we could control Iraq and win their minds, we thought they wanted us there, and maybe a few did, but we botched up on thinking the masses would rejoice on us.
Totally agree. I also think that the new nuke agreements Obama is working on will provide far more security in the Middle East than our fighting there for years and years could hope to provide.
To go into a war zone like that, with nothing to distinguish them from insurgents/terrorists, was the height of stupidity. Usually, you will see the press either wearing some kind of jacket or helmet with the word "PRESS" on it.
The unanswered question remains - why were Reuters journalists embedded with terrorists/insurgents?
Ah, so these two journalist died because they were STUPID? That's the story now? The two journalists deserved to die because they were stupid? You say "Usually" journalists wear a big sign saying "PRESS" on it, but these two didn't, so it was the height of stupidity........therefore, the stupid journalists deserved to be blown to bits by a U.S. helicopter team? How much time equals "usually" and do you have any facts to back that up?
Do you think that the people in the helicopter had any responsibility to KNOW at whom they were shooting.......and, again, why was our government dishonest about this event initially?
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