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View Poll Results: Do you hope Congress passes a net neutrality law?
Yes 27 42.86%
No 22 34.92%
Maybe 1 1.59%
I need to study up more on the issue 13 20.63%
I don't know 0 0%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-06-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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^^^LMAO^^^ Mom got pissed I guess.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:12 PM
 
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unless you prefer the FCC (or any of our other regulatory agencies) make regulations on a whim.
Slippery slope fallacy. Do you really think Comcast should be able to charge you more for visiting certain websites?

This is what we're going to have:


It's like a teenage girl defending an abusive boyfriend because she hates her dad.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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De facto, local monopolies on last-mile service exist. Right now.

That was sarcasm. Obviously, having 25 different ISPs laying cable would be incredibly inefficient - just like having 25 different water companies or gas companies. Or having 25 different railroads laying track between two major cities.

The first company to trench a given neighborhood holds an advantage big enough that it's a de facto monopoly. The interconnected nature of the net makes it impossible for you to pick your carrier from end to end. The market does not work efficiently under those circumstances.

There's ample precedence for common carrier laws, and I sure hope the Democrats find their balls for long enough to enforce this via legislation.

That may be how it works where you are but here Verison, Grande, and all others use the one cable laid and connected to the users.

There are not 100 cables, one laid for each company.
Once a cable is laid, that cable becomes part of the property. Who owns the property has the say.

Competition for that cable has no issue, it is the competition for that splice to the property owners usage that is the driver in innovation.

It is an argument for state and local governments, not the federal government.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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Court: FCC has no power to regulate Net neutrality | Politics and Law - CNET News

Good to know that the courts will give some smackdown when obama inevitably overreaches.
You dont even know what a tragedy you're celebrating.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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"Today, this court has ruled basically that under current law, the FCC does not have regulatory authority over a telecom companies "network management practices." If Congress would like to give the FCC that power, it needs to pass a law to do so."

Checks and balances people.

Congress simply needs to give the FCC the authority to prevent abuse to net neutrality.

Easy pease.

I expect that all levels of government, specifically those who have a role in administering regulation, do so within the confines of the powers delegated them by the Constitution, through legislation, and enforced through the judicial system.

The judical branch doesn't get to make laws, and thus, congress needs to take steps to authorize the FCC to enforce net neutrality non-conformance.

Government doesn't have all access passes to do whatever they want. This story is proof. There is a procedure... stick to it.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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Slippery slope fallacy. Do you really think Comcast should be able to charge you more for visiting certain websites?

This is what we're going to have:


It's like a teenage girl defending an abusive boyfriend because she hates her dad.
This is a case of the FCC overstepping their authority.
Your points are iIrrelevant and simplistic obfuscation.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:21 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Slippery slope fallacy. Do you really think Comcast should be able to charge you more for visiting certain websites?

This is what we're going to have:


Yes, comcast should be able to charge what they wish.
Your not forced to buy it, unlike healthcare insurance, which you now are forced. Guess what! Insurance companies can charge what they want, too. You don't like it, you can switch, or can you? It is called competition.

It looks like you want it both ways, only when it is good for you.
Deal is, you can't have it both ways.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wasn't AOL put in check with their charge per minute pricing, when the internet was in its infancy.
Other companies came on board and had the same deal, with something to give them more value to the consumer to get their business.

Then a big innovator pops up and it is unlimited access to the internet.
Guess who lost their ass, before changing to keep ahead of the competition. Who is AOL today?

Then we had innovation for cable/DSL/wireless, to get ahead of the competition.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:40 PM
 
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Court: FCC has no power to regulate Net neutrality | Politics and Law - CNET News



Good to know that the courts will give some smackdown when obama inevitably overreaches.
Court: FCC has no power to regulate Net neutrality | Politics and Law - CNET News

I do not see Obama's name in the actual title of the article. Do you place his name in ever sentence you write? Do you place it on your shopping list or on the memo section of your checks? Strange.

"She sells sea shells, Obama, by the sea shore"

"Jack and Jil went up the hill, Obama, to fetch a pail of water"

Really strange.
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Old 04-06-2010, 01:43 PM
 
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Wasn't AOL put in check with their charge per minute pricing, when the internet was in its infancy.
Other companies came on board and had the same deal, with something to give them more value to the consumer to get their business.

Then a big innovator pops up and it is unlimited access to the internet.
Guess who lost their ass, before changing to keep ahead of the competition. Who is AOL today?

Then we had innovation for cable/DSL/wireless, to get ahead of the competition.
You are ignoring the part where small businesses that provide internet content are going to get completely screwed.

But we all know you don't care about small businesses, so whatever

Hopefully congress actually goes forward and puts some net neutrality laws into place.
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