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Old 04-14-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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What would the research need to prove? That a person who is one thing, but thinks they are another has mental issues? I think this diagnoses is pretty self evident.
Nothing but an assumption on your part and thus of no merit, unless you can claim to have some expertise in this area. If not, you need to support your claims.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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O.K. in the article it's said that the category "M or F" is fraught with a lot of anxiety for people with a gender issue. And that one person claims "I'm a woman". Well, you're really not a woman, or a female by the strictest definition. Genetic. You can hope against all hope that you're an airplane and convince yourself you can fly, but at the end of the day, everyone knows you're not an airplane, so why fight your genetics?
Agreed, Gender is based solely on physical characteristics you are born with.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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Now just to be clear, Transgendered is different then Hermaphodites.


Hermaphadites actually have the physical characteristics of both sexes between their legs. I would assume you would be more understanding of their gender identity issues?

I was referring to people that are so confused in their mind with mental illness they need serious mental health care. As for hermaphadites, if they have any confusion, it would be normal and natural under those circumstances and not a mental illness.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Agreed, Gender is based solely on physical characteristics you are born with.
That's the definition of sex, not gender:
"Sex refers to biological status as male or female. It includes physical attributes such as sex chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, internal reproductive structures, and external genitalia. Gender is a term that is often used to refer to ways that people act, interact, or feel about themselves, which are associated with boys/men and girls/women. While aspects of biological sex are the same across different cultures, aspects of gender may not be."
Answers to Your Questions About Transgender Individuals and Gender Identity
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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It's pretty common sense based, I don't know why some are insisting for an advanced degree on common sense.

If it takes far more energy to present yourself as something you're not, then you're fighting something natural, going against nature. If you're conflicted then you need a shrink. I don't care how badly you want to fly, you're never going to be a real bird. You don't have wings, or a beak or feathers so why go out of your way to create it? Everyone is limited by the constraints of their physical appearance in the absence of plastic surgery and help from science. Why fight it? Doesn't it take more effort to keep up a masquerade, and put on that public face for the world so you have the appearance of being something you're not?

That's where the inner conflict comes from, balancing between something you're not, and something you so strongly desire.

It's playing mental hopscotch.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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If they want to be heard they should inject more testosterone/estrogen.


OHHH I am so baaaad!
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I was referring to people that are so confused in their mind with mental illness they need serious mental health care. As for hermaphadites, if they have any confusion, it would be normal and natural under those circumstances and not a mental illness.
Exactly.. Hermaphrodites have a legitimate reason to be confused. But someone who is born one sex, and who wished to be the other sex, and uses drugs/surgery, has some serious mental problems. My question, is why does the medical industry enable these people rather than treat the mental problems?

If you constantly go in for plastic surgery, a ethical doctor would refer you to a psychologist to see if you have body dismorophic.

Someone willing to cut off their genitalia because she want to be something they were not born as, have serious mental issues.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:21 PM
 
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It's pretty common sense based, I don't know why some are insisting for an advanced degree on common sense.

If it takes far more energy to present yourself as something you're not, then you're fighting something natural, going against nature. If you're conflicted then you need a shrink. I don't care how badly you want to fly, you're never going to be a real bird. You don't have wings, or a beak or feathers so why go out of your way to create it? Everyone is limited by the constraints of their physical appearance in the absence of plastic surgery and help from science. Why fight it? Doesn't it take more effort to keep up a masquerade, and put on that public face for the world so you have the appearance of being something you're not?

That's where the inner conflict comes from, balancing between something you're not, and something you so strongly desire.

It's playing mental hopscotch.
Well stated.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:26 PM
 
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I love all of the negative comments from people who probably have never known anyone who is transgender. It's so easy to be smug and negatively judge people, isn't it?
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:35 PM
 
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Psychiatrists and mental health profession are mostly a scam. This documentary proves it.


YouTube - MARKETING OF MADNESS (18/18)

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He needs to be heard by psychiatrists, a whole horde of them. It is a mental illness.
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