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Old 04-18-2010, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH BILLS REQUIRE THE MICRO CHIPPING OF AMERICANS – 3/18/10 « Silver and Gold outlook

All I have to say is, just let em come near me or my children with a chip! I dare em!
This crap again? My God, people will believe anything.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:46 AM
 
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God save us from the evil registry!

Next thing you know, we'll have to register our vehicles. It's a slippery slope, I'm tellin' ya.

Stop the satanic practice of registry-ing.

And for my good friend:
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Denver
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(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

Section B
‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to information respecting a device described in paragraph (1), including claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/...CA09001xml.pdf

But again, it seems this was REMOVED in the law signed by Obama..
Please explain how this wording gives people the option of allowing the government to implant within them medical data tracking chips. You say it's "clear" - whereas I don't see it even in the slightest.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Texas
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God save us from the evil registry!

Next thing you know, we'll have to register our vehicles. It's a slippery slope, I'm tellin' ya.

Stop the satanic practice of registry-ing.

And for my good friend:
I thought you were RVing in the desert
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:53 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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BOTH HOUSE AND SENATE HEALTH BILLS REQUIRE THE MICRO CHIPPING OF AMERICANS – 3/18/10 « Silver and Gold outlook

All I have to say is, just let em come near me or my children with a chip! I dare em!
The Medical Device Registry isn't about "micro chipping Americans" despite what that uninformed blog says. It's about setting up a registry to record the numbers on all the medical devices that go into a human body like artificial knees, screws, plates, hips, etc. Those things do fail or get recalled and the government needs to know which companies are making the substandard ones to help control health care costs.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:53 AM
 
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I love how the OP hasn't come back to respond to the way in which their ridiculous assertion has been torn apart, leaving pghquest to hopelessly flail about like usual. Drop a turd and run, I guess.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:53 AM
 
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Please explain how this wording gives people the option of allowing the government to implant within them medical data tracking chips. You say it's "clear" - whereas I don't see it even in the slightest.
So you dont understand

‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

means?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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So you dont understand

‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B)and is— ‘‘(i) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

means?
No, it is you that doesn't understand what you are reading. See post #35.
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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The Medical Device Registry isn't about "micro chipping Americans" dispute what that unimformed blog says. It's about setting up a registry to record the numbers on all the medical devices that go into a human body like artificial knees, screws, plates, hips, etc. Those things do fail or get recalled and the government needs to know which companies are making the substandard ones to help control health care costs.
Partially true. It indeed sets up a logging method to record implantable devices, but this leads to 2 questions
1) Some of these devices are already logged by the manufacturors and hospitals, so why is there a need for the government to do so
2) Some of the devices not logged and indexed, if this would have become law, would indeed begin to be logged. I can see the need to log things like artificial hearts by the manufacturer in the event of a recall, but do you really think everything implanted should be logged and recorded by the government? Why?
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Old 04-18-2010, 10:59 AM
 
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I thought you were RVing in the desert
I don't own an RV. I ride a Harley. It's being serviced, and I'm just about to go pick it up (they don't open until 10 on Sundays). Why are you concerned about my leisure activities? Are you suggesting I'm lying? You wouldn't be doing that, would you?

PM your e-mail address, and I'll send you pictures. Very beautiful scenery. I'm sure you'll enjoy them.
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