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Old 04-27-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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Oklahoma Senate Overrides Veto of Pro-Life Bill for Pre-Abortion Ultrasound

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Old 04-27-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: California
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It's no doubt a matter of money, time and availability.

The article says that the bill "allows" women to see an ultrasound, which is obviously misleading. It "required" one. Eveyone is "allowed" already.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Its a matter of saving babies lives not money or time.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I don't know why pro-abortion activists would object to such a procedure.

Well, maybe cause 80% of women seeing the BABY choose life.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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Its a matter of saving babies lives not money or time.
Without money or time nobody gets saved.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:30 PM
 
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I don't know why pro-abortion activists would object to such a procedure.

Well, maybe cause 80% of women seeing the BABY choose life.
They don't object to it. They object to "requiring" it. Again, money and time matter whether you like it or not.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I don't know why pro-abortion activists would object to such a procedure.

Well, maybe cause 80% of women seeing the BABY choose life.
I don't mind if women have the OPTION of seeing an ultrasound, but they should not be FORCED.

Plus, if they were forced, whose going to pay for the ultrasound techs and the machines?
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:43 PM
 
Location: TX
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I've always been under the impression that it's pretty typical for women to have ultrasounds performed prior to the procedure anyway. At least that's what I've heard, don't really have a source to site, but it makes sense that prior to an invasive procedure the doctor would want to visualize the area to be operated on. If that's the case it's not a matter of whether the procedure is to be done (because it will be) - but rather whether the woman should be forced to look at the images that will be obtained either way.

(Some pretty bizarre images come to mind - what are they going to do, pry her eyelids open like in Clockwork Orange?)

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Old 03-29-2012, 08:46 PM
 
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The Oklahoma bill was struck down today due to Oklahoma's Constitution.
The Associated Press: Okla. court strikes down ultrasound abortion law

The Oklahoma legislature is worthless. Those cronies couldn't care less about serving the people of Oklahoma.


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I don't know why pro-abortion activists would object to such a procedure.

Well, maybe cause 80% of women seeing the BABY choose life.
That's just plain false. “We haven’t heard of any women who, after going through these steps, are saying, ‘No, I’m changing my mind.’” The Texas law has been in effect for a little while now with no reduction in abortions. It's all about bloating government in order to shame women, it has little effect on abortion numbers.

U.S. News - Texas begins enforcing strict anti-abortion sonogram law

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Old 03-29-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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They don't object to it. They object to "requiring" it. Again, money and time matter whether you like it or not.
You're beginning to see the problem with an over reaching government.

I prefer that ALL women see an ultrasound before having an abortion, just to dispel the myth that a "fetus" isn't a human, but I don't want government mandates.

Just like with obamacare.
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