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Old 05-01-2010, 11:47 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This is easy.
  • Government takeover of private company (G.M.)
  • Telling private business how much they can pay an employee.
  • Showing favor to unions over bond holders in the G.M. takeover, which was illegal (by law, bond holders interests come first).
  • Forcing people to buy health insurance, whether or not they want it or need it.
  • Forcing banks to take money they don't want, then requiring them to pay it back with interest.
  • Forcing States to take money they don't want.
  • Telling States they must implememt an unconstitutional health care system.
  • Stealing money from one class of people for the specific purpose of redistributing it to others who did not earn it.
There are a whole host of things that could be cited.

You need to read the Constitution. The powers of the Federal Government are limited, and those which are not specifically granted to the Federal Government by the Constitution are left to the States.

I'll believe you when the SCOTUS does.

Until then, any cheese to go with those whines?
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:49 AM
 
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to tear this country apart with his racial comments and sick ideas for this country!
ahhh, just like the teabaggers
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Hilarious! Just completely ignore the FACT that paying back bailout money with more bailout money IS NOT actually paying anything back. Keep those eyes and ears closed.
Pro Publica is tracking the flow of money. They show over 40% has been returned.

http://bailout.propublica.org/main/summary
The State of the Bailout

OUTFLOWS: $517.3 billion This includes money that has actually been spent, invested, or loaned.

INFLOWS: $213.8 billion Money returned and paid to Treasury as interest, dividends, fees or to repurchase their stock warrants.
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:59 AM
 
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Read the constitution and founding fathers!!!!!!!!!
Lets see...your qualifications in regard to constitutional issues end at passing grade school civics while Obama is a constitutional lawyer that taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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Sure they were. Prove it.
Is this sarcasm? I certainly hope it is.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The Socialist Party of America claims Obama is far from one of their own. They say he is a corporatist, which should make you happy. They said Sarah Palin governed as the most Socialist of the 4 final contenders by jacking taxes up on corportations and spreading the wealth to the citizens.
Got any credible references? Obama was a "New Party" member in Chicago. He was steeped in socialism as a child, and he has admitted that he sought out Marxists and socialists. He has filled his administration with them (along with a couple of Maoists).
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Anyway, I suspect you're not familiar with American history to make the unspecific assertion you do.
No, I suspect it is you who is not familiar with American History.
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Study the presidencies of Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and FDR to name a few. You'll find vast parallels between Obama's crisis policies and many of our greatest who carried our country through various crises.
FDR caused the depression to last for several years. Not a good example, but unfortunately, that appears to be who Obama is following.
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We'll check back on Sunny's post in 2 1/2 years. Given the unquestionable rise of the economy from the brink of collapse, the corporations paying back the money they were lent to get through the crisis, the refocused attention on fighting terrorism, the victory for universal health care, and improved relations with other countries, it's pretty obvious that Obama's actually doing a strong job. At 51% approval now, I'm not sure what would drop that if nothing has before.
"Unquestionable rise of the economy"? We are getting closer to collapse! What are you smokin'? You are dreaming. What improved relations with other countries? He snubs our allies and reaches out to our enemies! For cryin' out loud, where are you getting this garbage? "Corporations paying back the money they were lent"? Who? G.M.? They might have paid back TARP; but they haven't paid anyone else who lost money in that takeover. Keep drinkin' that Kool-Aide!

We didn't want universal health care. The majority of Americans are opposed to that takeover.

51% Approval? He's down in the 40% range!
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I know it's difficult when you ideologically oppose the policies, but that doesn't mean they're illegal or even unethical.
How condescending. There is a lot this guy is doing that is illegal and unethical. Get your head out of the sand.

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As for the racist charge, I'll just let that one go as baseless. The guy's surrounded himself with more white people than any president in recent history.
Oh, we so conveniently forget the Rev. Wright in whose church he sat for 20 years listening to racist speech of the worst kind! But that's typical.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Well, in a 2 party system everybody's gotta fit under one of two. There are radical libertarians who bear little resemblance to the Republican Party, yet they still vote Republican.

The most extreme liberals vote Democrat out of necessity. Has nothing to do with President Obama governing just left of center.
Boy, have they got the wool pulled over your eyes! Obama governing just "left of center"? I'd hate to think what the left is!

Oh, no, wait ... I just figured it out ... you are an Obama plant. I had heard that the administration was urging it's supporters to infiltrate boards such as this. Yeah... that explains a lot about your posts.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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Now since baseball season is here, lets not forget about this little lie.
Lets remember how he acts when he is caught in one of his lies.
You know, just so we can spot the big ones.


YouTube - Obama Can't Name Any ChiSox Players?
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:31 PM
 
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Read the constitution and founding fathers!!!!!!!!!
Think you could use a few more explamation points?
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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no being a dem doesn not mean that some are not racist, however our president is not. just because he is open to all races and problems doen not mean he is racist against the 'white" population. calling him racist and a socialist is just falling in line with the fear factor the far right want to put on him. like I said our pres is a democrat not a socialist nor a racist
ahh, you said it, so it has to be the truth. Got it
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