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Old 05-14-2010, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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here's a couple more lies;
i just a have wide stance.
No i'm not gay, this rentboy is just here to handle my bags.
lmao :d
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Old 05-15-2010, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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The Fiscal thing really chaps my arse. Either the supporters are the biggest liars in the world, or complete morons after eight years of Bushie. The audacity and nerve it takes to **** and moan about spending is really something else.
You are correct. It does take a lot of audacity and nerve for democrats to keep criticizing Bush for all that deficit spending. Meanwhile they don't make a peep about Obama doing the same thing.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You are correct. It does take a lot of audacity and nerve for democrats to keep criticizing Bush for all that deficit spending. Meanwhile they don't make a peep about Obama doing the same thing.
So -

Does that mean you're joining us in criticizing Bush?
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Old 05-15-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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So -

Does that mean you're joining us in criticizing Bush?
Bush isn't president anymore. Obama is.
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Old 05-15-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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The 1980s Democrat-controlled Congress, during the Reagan era spent, on average, 2.8% more than Reagan asked for and a cumulative 24.5% over 8 years.



Read up on Pres. Reagan and the Cold War.
Was Reagan the president for the entire period of the Cold War.
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Old 05-15-2010, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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TRUE! Not all Republicans are fiscal conservatives... the neo-conservatives (Bush, Reagan, etc are in this group) are NOT fiscal conservatives... some republicans are but some are not!

This is the only thing I agree with. However, do you really believe that if we ignore our nation's problems they will go away and not bite us in the ass? I believe it is better to make an anvil hot by striking.

False! Republicans and Democrats are both strong on National Security however, both have different opinions on how to achieve it. Even within each party there are different opinions on how to achieve it. Majority wins on the methodology... As to Democrats winning WWI/WWII.. horsecrap... party affiliation had NOTHING to do with winning the war.. it was the soldiers that fought these wars and you do them great injustice for claiming it was politics of democrats that won the war...

False: Who do you think selects the most serior members of the US Military? How Did a Officer like George C Marshall, Dwight Eisenhower or Chester Nimitz get his command? Well a politician chose em, his name was Franklin D. Roosevelt. It turn out that the choice of commanders is a large component of the sucess that American forces had. Marshall, Eisenhower and Nimitz were not only good leaders but could select good subordinates. Also Roosevelt and his political boys organized the greatest war production effort ever seen. The Americans were the firstest with the mostest and this simply overwhelmed the Germans and the Japanese. It would have been a harder fight if they had gone into combat with the goods they had in 1939. We can also thank another hack Democratic politician from Kansas Missouri named Harry Truman for making sure American businesses gave the troops things that worked.

TRUE! Republicans do not always defend individual rights and have a WORSE record than democrats in defending individual rights.. however, democrats often favor "collective rights" over individual rights and they have the worse record for that as well... it seems democrats favor two extremes...

Do you really think that individual rights take precident over the rights of communities of people. For example the right of the CEO of British Petroleum to conduct his business in the Gulf of Mexico as he sees fit.?

TRUE! Republicans are horrible at family values BUT democrats are NOT better than republicans in the same arena...

My problem with the GOP is this is the party that guarenteed to show you happy pictures of the candidate standing with the wife , his kids and a dog during his campaign. I for one couldn't care if he's married, keeps his wick zipped up, is gay or even has a thing for pornography. The only thing I draw the line at is his liking for little boys or girls and don't try to impose yourself on me.

TRUE! Republicans don't want everyone to have the same opportunities because they favor that individuals make their own opportunities instead of government showering them with money for them to do something. Republicans don't think it is the role of the government to be your nanny forever... the opportunities are there but the government shouldn't be doing all the work for you at other people's expenses...

False: Republicans don't want anyone to compete with Republicans. They like this America were only 10% of the nation has 80 % of the wealth. Afterall, just how many Goldman Sachses and Donald Trumps can this nation afford have, now really.

So... not quite five but you do make some points but to fail to mention that democrats have a worse philosophy, methodology, and ideology...
see above.
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Old 05-15-2010, 05:46 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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1. Republicans are Fiscal Conservatives

The party of Bush and Reagan has exploded deficits over the last thirty years while the one “tax-and-spend liberal” in office during that period left office boasting a massive budget surplus.
That's a bald faced lie. Clinton left no surplus. That myth has been debunked time and time again. Sounds good, and the left likes to say it; but, it just "ain't" so.
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2. Republicans are Strong on National Security

So where is the proof that the GOP can win wars or keep our country safe? It was Democrats who won World War I and II,
And you conveniently leave out mention of Vietnam! If it were not for LBJ, we would have not lost. We would have fought to win. But Democrats turned it into a political debate.
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3. Republicans Defend Individual Rights

Let me ask you this: what good will the Second Amendment do you without the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth?
Huh???? Explain.
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4. Republicans Represent Family Values

It’s conservatives who manage to wrack up new financial and sexual scandals month after month with all-too-predictable consistency.
Really? Have you forgotten the Kennedys? The "Breck Girl"? Gosh, there have been at least as many Democrats. Barney Frank? C'mon! And what about Bill Clinton!

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5. Republicans Just Want Everyone to Have the Same Opportunities

It’s clear now that with Republicans in power, predatory businessmen and idiotic ideologues are always first among equals - and when the check comes due, it’s the people, not the powerful, who pay.
Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Hell, the whole damn bunch of Democrats in power have been on the take and feathering their own nests. Even Barrack H. Obama! All a bunch of crooks and liars!

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Old 05-15-2010, 08:45 PM
 
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1. Republicans are Fiscal Conservatives

The party of Bush and Reagan has exploded deficits over the last thirty years while the one “tax-and-spend liberal” in office during that period left office boasting a massive budget surplus.

2. Republicans are Strong on National Security

So where is the proof that the GOP can win wars or keep our country safe? It was Democrats who won World War I and II,

3. Republicans Defend Individual Rights

Let me ask you this: what good will the Second Amendment do you without the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth?

4. Republicans Represent Family Values

It’s conservatives who manage to wrack up new financial and sexual scandals month after month with all-too-predictable consistency.


5. Republicans Just Want Everyone to Have the Same Opportunities

It’s clear now that with Republicans in power, predatory businessmen and idiotic ideologues are always first among equals - and when the check comes due, it’s the people, not the powerful, who pay.

The Five Biggest Republican Lies - The Seminal :: Independent Media and Politics
Not sure what's worse. Believing this junk or actually thinking the two parties are different. The democrats are just as bad as the republicans.
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Old 05-15-2010, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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With their repeated attacks on the Constitution I would have to say it is a lie they are representing a democracy or they are good Americans.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Talk to the UN about that - they're the reason we didn't finish the job then.

YouTube - Cheney on Invading Iraq - 9/14/1992
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