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Old 05-08-2023, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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I think I put it as simply as I could. If I have to transform a location to a dollar store, so be it.
Why would REI want to change their business to a Dollar Store... or any other business? Why would a Dollar Store be any safer for customers or employees than the existing REI store?

You say a lot of simple things rrampage. Why not try to stay a few more complex things that explain your point in a realistic business sense?
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:56 PM
 
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I think I put it as simply as I could. If I have to transform a location to a dollar store, so be it.
I don't think you understand how this works. Even if REI had the ability to simply devolve into a dollar store, that location would be just as vulnerable to factors that keep customers away.

Even WalMart fled downtown Portland. Not sure why you think a dollar store wouldn't do the same.
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Old 05-08-2023, 02:59 PM
 
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Why would REI want to change their business to a Dollar Store... or any other business? Why would a Dollar Store be any safer for customers or employees than the existing REI store?

You say a lot of simple things rrampage. Why not try to stay a few more complex things that explain your point in a realistic business sense?

Why wouldn't they? The more flexibility, the better. I am being completely realistic. I would want to serve multiple market segments, not just a concentrated one. It gives me more flexibility.

Safety is never guaranteed. Different markets adapt better to risk than others.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:06 PM
 
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I don't think you understand how this works. Even if REI had the ability to simply devolve into a dollar store, that location would be just as vulnerable to factors that keep customers away.

Even WalMart fled downtown Portland. Not sure why you think a dollar store wouldn't do the same.

No, I do understand how this works. You act as if Portland has no businesses left due to homelessness/crime. That is simply not the case. REI could choose to adapt if they wanted to. But, there's the negative side of strictly following an inflexible business plan.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:24 PM
 
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No, I do understand how this works. You act as if Portland has no businesses left due to homelessness/crime. That is simply not the case. REI could choose to adapt if they wanted to. But, there's the negative side of strictly following an inflexible business plan.
No, you don't understand how it works. At all. The PTB at REI don't even have the choice to suddenly become a dollar store. Do you even realize that REI does not own that building?

And you haven't explained how a dollar store is going to thrive in that location. Do you think that a dollar store will be able to bear the losses from theft/vandalism more easily than others? You'd be wrong; they're operating on an even slimmer profit margin. Or do you think that the low prices would incentivize customer traffic? Good luck with convincing legit residents in and around the Pearl to shop at a dollar store in the first place, let alone navigate homeless activity to get there.

Do you even live in Oregon?

You can read more about downtown Portland's struggles here:

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/loc...b-7ee1688b1f0a
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:28 PM
 
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No, you don't understand how it works. At all. The PTB at REI don't even have the choice to suddenly become a dollar store. Do you even realize that REI does not own that building?

And you haven't explained how a dollar store is going to thrive in that location. Do you think that a dollar store will be able to bear the losses from theft/vandalism more easily than others? You'd be wrong; they're operating on an even slimmer profit margin. Or do you think that the low prices would incentivize customer traffic? Good luck with convincing legit residents in and around the Pearl to shop at a dollar store in the first place, let alone navigate homeless activity to get there.

Do you even live in Oregon?

You can read more about downtown Portland's struggles here:

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/loc...b-7ee1688b1f0a

Show me the law that says they couldn't sell a different variety of items at that failed location.

I see a lot of hyperbole and political propaganda on here. But, little in the way of anything factual. Just look at a google map of that area. Plenty of businesses around.

I'm not coming here with a political agenda.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Show me the law that says they couldn't sell a different variety of items at that failed location.

I see a lot of hyperbole and political propaganda on here. But, little in the way of anything factual. Just look at a google map of that area. Plenty of businesses around.

I'm not coming here with a political agenda.
lol if this is the level of thought and rationalization from some of the Portlanders, the bottom is still a long ways down. Good luck the rest of you.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:40 PM
 
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We have people acting as if Portland is a 3rd World Country. Too much political propaganda in this thread.


So, anyway, nevermind.......
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:54 PM
 
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lol if this is the level of thought and rationalization from some of the Portlanders, the bottom is still a long ways down. Good luck the rest of you.
I suspect that rrampage has never set foot in Portland.
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Old 05-08-2023, 03:56 PM
 
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Show me the law that says they couldn't sell a different variety of items at that failed location.

I see a lot of hyperbole and political propaganda on here. But, little in the way of anything factual. Just look at a google map of that area. Plenty of businesses around.
Because you probably don't know this, REI is structured as consumers cooperative. Go read the company's bylaws and then get back to me about how easy it would be for them to devolve into a dollar store.

And you haven't answered the question of how a dollar store would even be successful in Portland's Pearl District. Dollar stores are placed in locations near their customer base for a reason, and that wouldn't be the Pearl. Edit from previous comments, it seems your real problem with that retailer is that their products are too expensive for you.

It's pretty clear that you don't even know the fundamental basics of business...

Not sure why you're trying to make this political, but I guess that's all you've got.

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