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View Poll Results: So now with the Niners and Vikes officially out, who will most likely move to L.A.?
Bills 1 4.35%
Chargers 3 13.04%
Jaguars 8 34.78%
Raiders 3 13.04%
Rams 8 34.78%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2012, 10:29 PM
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So after a full year of the original, I think it's time to update the NFL to L.A. "relocation situation".

The Vikings and 49ers (duh) are officially out. One is getting ready to pick a spot for their new stadium after YEARS of back and forth, while the other just broke ground not too long ago. So, now it's out of the Bills, Chargers, Jaguars, Raiders, and Rams.

Oh and note, I know... I just KNOW you want to say 'Jaguars', but, just read below.

(from NFL.com)

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Here's a quick breakdown of where things stand for each franchise ...

San Diego Chargers

San Diego has a three-month escape clause at the beginning of each calendar year at this point in its lease, and could leave next year by paying just $22 million in outstanding bonds. Still, there's a feeling that the Spanos family doesn't want to leave, the NFL doesn't want to lose the San Diego market and a reasonable stadium deal will keep the Bolts there.

They have the easiest out, and the shortest, most painless path, but they've already had the chance to go, and haven't. And they might not be the NFL's ideal answer to the L.A. question. Plus, there's the fact that -- and this effects the Raiders, too -- the California government won't be overly enthusiastic to help a stadium plan if it's simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

St. Louis Rams

The team has submitted a proposal to renovate the Edward Jones Dome to the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission. If it's accepted, the team's lease extends through 2025. If it's rejected, an arbitrator will work out a compromise plan, and the city accepting that one in December would also extend the lease to '25. If the city turns that one down, an out could be enacted in the Rams' lease in January 2015, pending some litigation.

What we know is owner Stan Kroenke has deep pockets and Los Angeles ties. The ball, for now, is in St. Louis' court to get the dome into the lease-prescribed "top 25 percent" of venues in the league.

Oakland Raiders

The Raiders' lease is up after 2013. Sharing the 49ers' Santa Clara digs, set to open in 2014, is an option. A better one for the team would be gutting the Coliseum, which is located on a plot of land in Oakland the team feels is ideal. But the central question with the latter plan -- and really the former one, too -- is whether or not the Bay Area can support two teams, from a corporate standpoint, from a suite-selling standpoint, and -- if they were to play in separate venues long term -- from a naming-rights standpoint.

While some speculation exists that estate taxes will eventually force Mark Davis to sell the team, my understanding is that a plan is in place for the club to remain in the family. But that doesn't mean the family won't eventually see greener pastures in its old area code if its current region simply doesn't have room for two clubs to thrive financially.

Jacksonville Jaguars

The bottom line here is that Jacksonville simply hasn't grown the way the NFL envisioned when it awarded the city a franchise in 1995. But the club has been creative in trying to make its challenging conditions work. And with new ownership, the Jags probably aren't going anywhere for a while. One reason is the team's lease, which runs through 2030.

There is an out, but a tough one to enact. The Jaguars would have to prove they lost money three years in a row -- not an easy feat now, and one that might be tougher when the new TV deals kick in -- and then pay a significant fee on top of that. Also, Wayne Weaver put additional penalties for moving the team into his deal to sell the club to Shahid Khan, making it even more costly to do so. For now, Khan seems committed to making it work in Jacksonville. And really, for the time being, he doesn't have a choice.

Buffalo Bills

Owner Ralph Wilson, who is in his 90s, has said the team will not be moved while he's still living. The club's succession plan is to put the team in a trust and sell to the highest bidder. Still, the club is negotiating a new lease and renovation plan, and its regionalization efforts have been largely successful. Thirty-two percent of the club's tickets sales have come from Rochester, an hour away, and Southern Ontario, and the league is interested in continuing to cultivate the Toronto market.

Down the line, could a new deep-pocketed owner swoop in, and whisk the team away? It's not impossible. But chances are, that won't happen any time soon.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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Some good input here JJG!

I'll go ahead and close the other thread for obvious reasons.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:05 AM
 
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The Vikings are not offically out, the stadium is not a done deal, it is not going to pass the Minneapolis committee, the Vikings will be moving

You should add the Vikings to the poll
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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The half full stadium in Jacksonville says plenty.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:06 PM
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The half full stadium in Jacksonville says plenty.
Actually it doesn't. Seriously, people, some of the things about the Jaguars attendence woes are exaggerated.

Again, read the above. They're pretty much locked there.
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Old 05-13-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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I would love it if the Rams came back, please no Raiders!!!
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:31 PM
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Please give me a link. Until then.... After years of dealing and debate, Vikings get their biggest win | StarTribune.com... there is very, very, VERY little showing that this stadium wont happen.

Set date is Fall 2016.

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Old 05-13-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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Please give me a link. Until then.... After years of dealing and debate, Vikings get their biggest win | StarTribune.com... there is very, very, VERY little showing that this stadium wont happen.

Set date is Fall 2016.
I will give you a link when it does not pass

Minneapolis City Council gets last stadium vote | StarTribune.com

It is not going to pass the Minneapolis City Council on May 25th and the Vikings will be moving next year
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:32 PM
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I will give you a link when it does not pass

Minneapolis City Council gets last stadium vote | StarTribune.com

It is not going to pass the Minneapolis City Council on May 25th and the Vikings will be moving next year
Chances are, I'll be on that before you will...

You sound very sure of yourself.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:49 PM
 
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Chances are, I'll be on that before you will...

You sound very sure of yourself.
Yup
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