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Old 05-10-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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IMHO it's called great coaching led by Belichick who I feel is a coaching genius (like him or not).

Yes, it's an unnecessary red flag, created by a team who refuses not to continue to push the envelope so far.
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Old 05-10-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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Welp, the Wells report continues to look like a joke more and more....


Pressure gauge discrepancies undermine Wells report | ProFootballTalk

Wells report disregards Anderson’s “best recollection” on a key piece of evidence | ProFootballTalk
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Old 05-10-2015, 06:28 PM
 
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It is my understanding that the CBA only sets a penalty of a $25,000 fine. No suspension.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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The suspensions in the NFL are completely idiotic:

You text a coach during a game and you're out for 4 games. Put in artificial noise makers and your banned from the national committee. Deflate some footballs, suspension TBA.

Meanwhile you can chop block someone and end their career and only get a $50,000 fine. Doesn't make sense.
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Old 05-11-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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And yet to date there is no proof of any cover-up. Everyone is just assuming that at this point. Sure, as in my previous post I mentioned Lance Armstrong who took forever to come clean. But until Brady issues any sort of statement (if he does), all still maybes and assumptions.

I never said he would get off with no penalty. Just making an opinion that I don't see enough evidence of the crime nor the cover-up to penalize, as there is no proof of either.

The NFL is the problem here.

Well, to you or me there is no obvious advantage simply because the noted PSI differences were so small, but obviously Brady sees an advantage otherwise there would be no story. It could simply be one of those quirky things that some players do before a game like eating a certain meal or engaging in a specific routine.

IMO, Brady likes the ball to feel a certain way which in this case is a bit lighter (PSI wise) than the recommended number. I believe there is likely no advantage either way and this is just one of those quirky player rituals that gives Brady some pregame comfort and confidence. Once the game is under way, it probably makes no difference either way.

Coming up on the biggest game of the year, Brady probably got a little anxious about the feel and went a little overboard to make sure those balls had that feel. If so, he should simply own up to it and move on. Regardless, there are those that will forever call him a cheat and he needs to realize that will never change. But if he admits that yea, he asked those guys to remove some air in the ball at least then he will win back a few detractors and some dignity.

Personally, I don't see a decided advantage in 1 pound less of PSI in the ball but then again, I could spit on a baseball or rough it up with an emery board all day long and it still wouldn't allow me to throw a nasty breaking ball...
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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The winning play of the Super Bowl was a player who KNEW what play the Seahawks were running, the DB played possum, he dropped back to bait the receiver to think he was wide open and nobody was paying attention and then bam, as soon as wilson started to reach back to throw, this guy beelined right for the spot the ball was going to land, there's no way you can get there if its a reaction play, he knew that was coming or else he has no shot to get there.
In real world terms, this is what we would call "being prepared."
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Old 05-11-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: AriZona
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IMHO it's called great coaching led by Belichick who I feel is a coaching genius (like him or not).
One major annoyance with Belichick, is that whenever I listen to his "pressers", I feel the urge to help him open his mouth just a little wider... in order to let the words through.
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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The Belichick Brady combo is dynamite. Over the years the entire team has been replaced and yet they continue on winning. I have been a fan for decades and even with Drew Bledsoe the Patriots were pretty good but Brady elevated them.

The Patriots always bring a good game that is exciting to watch. They somehow manage to get it done when it counts. yes they get a bit creative now and again that has left other teams playing catchup but it is all legal.

Belichick is a genius and plenty of times he has left us saying what the heck are you doing but it always comes out in the end.

I'm sure they will continue winning until Brady retires. The only question is when Brady goes will Belichick call it quits too?
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Old 05-11-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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One major annoyance with Belichick, is that whenever I listen to his "pressers", I feel the urge to help him open his mouth just a little wider... in order to let the words through.
I will admit Mr Stoneface does not excite on the podium. Wonder how much fun he is at a bar popping a few?

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The Belichick Brady combo is dynamite. Over the years the entire team has been replaced and yet they continue on winning. I have been a fan for decades and even with Drew Bledsoe the Patriots were pretty good but Brady elevated them.

The Patriots always bring a good game that is exciting to watch. They somehow manage to get it done when it counts. yes they get a bit creative now and again that has left other teams playing catchup but it is all legal.

Belichick is a genius and plenty of times he has left us saying what the heck are you doing but it always comes out in the end.

I'm sure they will continue winning until Brady retires. The only question is when Brady goes will Belichick call it quits too?
I've always thought Belichick and Brady will go together. As a player obviously the body says retire. Belichick can continue. But I just wonder, unless his love for the game is so deep that his life is on the sidelines, I would think with zero to prove it would be good timing to enjoy the next stage of his life.
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Old 05-11-2015, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Well Goodell laid the smackdown. Four games for Brady, 2016 1st round pick and 2017 4th round pick for the Pats.
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