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People seem to be complaining about how Gen Y men are (rude, feminine, unchivalrous, too horny ) but I'm wondering how exactly you think they differ on average from men in the past.
Deep down I think the 'Generation gap' has been exaggerated. People are still basically the same underneath.
i think we are the same in terms of we have the same desires as men of the past. But social norms have definitely changed. Kids have more free reign to rebel and parents are less strict in teaching their kids manners and rules.
Also traditionally negative behavior such as being a player, violence, etc etc has been glorified. Divorce is only gonna rise dude. good time to be a divorce lawyer lol
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i think we are the same in terms of we have the same desires as men of the past. But social norms have definitely changed. Kids have more free reign to rebel and parents are less strict in teaching their kids manners and rules.
Also traditionally negative behavior such as being a player, violence, etc etc has been glorified. Divorce is only gonna rise dude. good time to be a divorce lawyer lol
I think studs and cassanovas have been admired in certain circles, but yes promiscuity hasn't been quite as celebrated as it is now. Wilt Chamberlain apparently had sex with 10,000 women. How his dinger didn't fall off, or how he didn't get plain sick of sex amazes me.
Generation Y confuses me sometimes. I'm not of that generation and get repeatedly asked where did I learn all this stuff? Well, we didn't have computers or any of these other modern day gadgets when I was growing up. You made your fun, usually OUTSIDE. You learned stuff with hands on experience, trial and error, and without having Google and the net to fall back on. I've tried to take Gen Y guys hunting before and the first time I hear some dorky/annoying ringtone, I tell them to shut the damn thing off. You are scaring the game away! Duh LOL No cell phones in my boat while fishing either. Shut it off, I'm not listening to your old lady or girlfriend call every five minutes about nothing. I think it was a big mistake for the schools to take out much of their workshop and Industrial Arts labs, replacing them with computers! Yeah, you can learn the same thing on a computer. Would the kid even be able to turn the welder, drill press, lathe, end and vertical mill on, much less operate it? It's doubtful and they aren't learning what they need to learn. Yeah, I remember kids in my class nicking their thumb on the bandsaw or the router, bleeding all over the place. They had to go down to the nurse and get it taken care of or go get stitches. That's probably what killed it? I'm not certain though. Liability nowadays is a mofo!
I can tell ya that if it wasn't for taking tech theater for 4 years in high school, I probably couldn't recognize a 2x4.
One of my friends went back at an auction at our high school many years later and bought some of the heavy equipment we used in machine shop. A Bridgeport vertical and end mill, surface grinder, metal lathe and some other BIG stuff. I guess the kids will never know how to use it now? All that equipment he bought is the SAME equipment we ran when we were there. Who would have ever thought he was going to buy the class as an adult! Haha
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Men are certainly not the same in terms of the self-image department. For example, let's just take hair as one aspect of grooming.
At no point in the history of humankind have men as a group spent more time obsessed with, and styling, their hair. Ten years ago I never saw pre-teen boys with colored hair or blonde tips, but these days I often see youngsters with bleached streaks. And the amount of time some of these boys spend getting their look just right. Don't be deceived. That tousled mop replete with shaggy fringe covering the eyes is a carefully contrived creation requiring hours of arrangement and adjustment in front of a bathroom mirror.
Relatedly, there are now a ridiculous amount of styling products targeted at a male market... Mousse, wax, paste, gel, putties, etc..... Let's also not forget the dye products designed for lad locks.
In the old days, men wore their hair long, short or clippered. Occasionally a rebel would opt for a mohawk. These days, many boys are going around with art perched on their head and hair is frequently used as a vehicle to express individuality and make a fashion statement.
Oh, and one last point. Once upon a time if you were losing your hair the only option was a toupee or comb-over. These days companies are offering a vast range of products and services that varying in effectiveness, including, laser treatment, special lotions and potions and hair replacement surgery.
PS. Initially, I didn't feel it was right to use emoticons with this comment because they are all bald! But I couldn't help myself.
At no point in the history of humankind have men as a group spent more time obsessed with, and styling, their hair.
Have you ever seen a painting of George Washington? Or Louis XIV? Washington was president from 1789–1797, and Louis reigned from 1643 to his death in 1715 - clearly men of a certain social standing have definitely been more obsessed with their hair at different times in history.
As for the original question I don't think Gen Y is all that different. Humans are humans, no matter what era they're born in.
I think you people should get over it. It's not your business what other people do.
It may not be our business to judge other people, but there's nothing wrong with discussing the human condition. Sociology can be fascinating! And I don't sense that there's anything other than that going on here.
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) but I'm wondering how exactly you think they differ on average from men in the past.
Would the kid even be able to turn the welder, drill press, lathe, end and vertical mill on, much less operate it? It's doubtful and they aren't learning what they need to learn. Yeah, I remember kids in my class nicking their thumb on the bandsaw or the router, bleeding all over the place. They had to go down to the nurse and get it taken care of or go get stitches. That's probably what killed it? I'm not certain though. Liability nowadays is a mofo!
Who would have ever thought he was going to buy the class as an adult! Haha
But I couldn't help myself.
