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Old 11-09-2013, 02:27 AM
 
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Something I always realize is, girls are rather quiet and reserved in conversations while guys tend to dominate the conversation by initiating it and being more talkative or funny. Very often, the girls would be entertained by their sense of humor and so the conversation keeps going.

If a guy is too silent or not proactive in conversations, he would be seen as weird or socially awkward. But girls can get away with that.

So why is that? Is it because it is a male trait to have a better sense of humour and be more socially proactive than girls in general?

If that is the case, then why are male-to-male conversations (from my observation) tend to be rather bland and lacking of enthusiasm as compared to that of coed ones?

Is it possibly because guys just want to get a chance to know the opposite sex better and hopefully hook them up or get into a relationship?


This leads me to even wonder if guys do actually exaggerate or make up something about their life which may not be true, in order to get attention.

I hope this doesn't sound like a stupid question. LOL.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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It can be a lifetime thing to study the differences between girls and guys.

All I can say is to get out more and meet a large variety of men and women in different situations. In bars, churches, places of work where women run the business, mobile home parks, fancy restaurants, beauty salons, auto parts stores, and on and on.

I have found that women can be just like men and men just like women. With some women, you can't get a word in edge-wise. But then look around and you will also find men like that too!

So far as guys making things up to get attention, some will do that, many will not - but also some women will do that, many will not. People are different!
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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I wish more men on the dating scene were funny. I love a good banter.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Perhaps because it's usually the man doing the pursuing, so the onus is on him more? I would think that if the girl was pursuing a guy then the same would be true in reverse. Generally the individual who initiates interest is the one that is trying to make an impression.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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As a woman, I personally feel obligated to actively and wittily take part in conversation. However, I do recognize that there is a strong cultural message that women are ornamental while men are instrumental. This programming influences some women and girls to focus on their appearance above developing other facets of their personhood.

There is a good bit of research indicating that men are threatened and turned off by funny women, and so some women have chosen to suppress their comedic side in order to be more attractive. Why men don't fancy funny women

OP, I have known a couple women that truly expected every interaction with a man to be basically non-stop entertainment. These women did not participate in conversation but rather sat back to enjoy the show. And if the man had an off day when he was more quiet and subdued, they'd ditch him. I know that plenty of men also use women as a form of entertainment, but in a very different way.

Overall, I think most people find that women are naturally more talkative than men, so this somewhat refutes the OP. I would certainly venture to guess that the OP would benefit from a wider exposure to women, as many certainly do not fit his description of the quiet, passive spectator.

I do find it unacceptable that shy men are so harshly judged as socially awkward. I will proudly and publicly state that I'd never want to be with a life-of-the-party type of guy. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. I always gravitated toward the shy, brainy type. Married that type in fact and we will celebrate our 10 year anniversary next month.
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:25 AM
 
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Overall, I think most people find that women are naturally more talkative than men, so this somewhat refutes the OP. I would certainly venture to guess that the OP would benefit from a wider exposure to women, as many certainly do not fit his description of the quiet, passive spectator.
Yep. I was just thinking of a few female friends who are married to men that I've rarely heard speak at length. They, however, are big enough conversationalists for them both.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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As a woman, I personally feel obligated to actively and wittily take part in conversation. However, I do recognize that there is a strong cultural message that women are ornamental while men are instrumental. This programming influences some women and girls to focus on their appearance above developing other facets of their personhood.

There is a good bit of research indicating that men are threatened and turned off by funny women, and so some women have chosen to suppress their comedic side in order to be more attractive. Why men don't fancy funny women

OP, I have known a couple women that truly expected every interaction with a man to be basically non-stop entertainment. These women did not participate in conversation but rather sat back to enjoy the show. And if the man had an off day when he was more quiet and subdued, they'd ditch him. I know that plenty of men also use women as a form of entertainment, but in a very different way.

Overall, I think most people find that women are naturally more talkative than men, so this somewhat refutes the OP. I would certainly venture to guess that the OP would benefit from a wider exposure to women, as many certainly do not fit his description of the quiet, passive spectator.

I do find it unacceptable that shy men are so harshly judged as socially awkward. I will proudly and publicly state that I'd never want to be with a life-of-the-party type of guy. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. I always gravitated toward the shy, brainy type. Married that type in fact and we will celebrate our 10 year anniversary next month.

Well, if I was a man I would be put off by the male bashing comedy of these particular women. Compare to the comedy of Marilyn Monroe or Fran Drescher.
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Old 11-09-2013, 08:53 PM
 
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Well, if I was a man I would be put off by the male bashing comedy of these particular women. Compare to the comedy of Marilyn Monroe or Fran Drescher.
The study did not present specific jokes or comedians to the test subjects.

"Asked if they found a sense of humour to be attractive in women, most men said yes. But when they were asked if they would want to be with a woman who cracked jokes herself, the answer was a resounding no."

"women valued humour production, whereas men valued receptivity to their own humour."
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:11 PM
 
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The study did not present specific jokes or comedians to the test subjects.

"Asked if they found a sense of humour to be attractive in women, most men said yes. But when they were asked if they would want to be with a woman who cracked jokes herself, the answer was a resounding no."

"women valued humour production, whereas men valued receptivity to their own humour."
I am not sure if the problem is the humor or the fact that they could be the butt of the joke. Even women don't like that. That article seems to confuse humor with sarcasm.

"Many men don't really want to be the recipient of a cutting remark in public that will make them look small or stupid." As IF women enjoyed cutting remarks and condescending treatment.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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I am not sure if the problem is the humor or the fact that they could be the butt of the joke. Even women don't like that. That article seems to confuse humor with sarcasm.

"Many men don't really want to be the recipient of a cutting remark in public that will make them look small or stupid." As IF women enjoyed cutting remarks and condescending treatment.
Keep in mind that quote is not from someone involved in the study. Just commentary from a random comedy writer.
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