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Old 10-02-2015, 09:03 PM
 
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I'm in my early 50s now and the youngest of 3 children. All of my elders (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles) are long gone but I have vivid memories (good) of my childhood. I was especially close to my Mom and maternal grandmother - both of whom passed away when I was a preteen (Mom: heart stopped in her sleep; grandma: cancer [medically, but in reality from a broken heart after losing her daughter]…Anyway, both were very very loving and this evening I was listening to a tune that made me remember the great times. And I felt a pang of sadness 'cause they're not here. I miss them immensely. Ever get sad over someone you'd lost long ago?
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Old 10-02-2015, 09:25 PM
 
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Thoughts (memories) evoke/stimulate emotions.
Would you like to cherish the memories without the "pang of sadness"?
You did it with the 'bogyman' thought/image; you can do so with other thoughts/memories.
(I won't explain why memories evoke/stimulate emotions, unless you ask. Hint: why does 'bogyman' thought-image no longer evoke/stimulate your emotion of fear?)

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Old 10-02-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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I'm in my early 50s now and the youngest of 3 children. All of my elders (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles) are long gone but I have vivid memories (good) of my childhood. I was especially close to my Mom and maternal grandmother - both of whom passed away when I was a preteen (Mom: heart stopped in her sleep; grandma: cancer [medically, but in reality from a broken heart after losing her daughter]…Anyway, both were very very loving and this evening I was listening to a tune that made me remember the great times. And I felt a pang of sadness 'cause they're not here. I miss them immensely. Ever get sad over someone you'd lost long ago?
Occasionally I feel sad over my paternal grandmother. Once in a while I dream of her and I can feel her warmth in the dreams. She died in 1975, when I was 16 years old.

The other day I was remembering a great-uncle and Aunt. They had no children so they treated us like grandchildren. It was so much fun to go to their house. They are long gone but thinking of them, I yearned for those days.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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What is required for emotions to be evoked? Answer: Perceptions.

"Thoughts' also evoke emotions. We 'learned' to use 'thoughts' in lieu of perceptions.

How can 'thoughts' be surrogate/substitute perceptions?
By UNWITTINGLY BELIEVING they are. (Placebo/Nocebo effect).
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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What is required for emotions to be evoked? Answer: Perceptions.

"Thoughts' also evoke emotions. We 'learned' to use 'thoughts' in lieu of perceptions.

How can 'thoughts' be surrogate/substitute perceptions?
By UNWITTINGLY BELIEVING they are. (Placebo/Nocebo effect).
Yeah ok. Do you have a point?
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:20 AM
 
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every sunday i spend all morning on youtube playing all my favorite tear jerkers and crying my eyes out over long gone loved ones .. it`s ok .. it puts me near them .. i always start out with this song ..
https://youtu.be/2Ne3cz9eUsQ
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Old 10-03-2015, 09:54 AM
 
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Yeah ok. Do you have a point?
Yes; obviously your missing it.
We 'learned' to use thoughts in lieu of perceptions by 'unwittingly believing' they are perceptions.
When 'learning' to substitute thought for perception, it was overlooked that some thoughts are false; do not fit facts. So in those cases the emotions evoked by them are dysfunctional and often 'hurtful' and needless.

May I remind you that 'unwittingly believing' takes place 'behind-the-scenes'/subliminally/involuntarily/by habit/automatically.
Most people do not recognize 'doing' it, but the numbers of those who do is increasing.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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what the #@&*^^ are you talking about ?
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:13 AM
 
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Yes; obviously your missing it.
We 'learned' to use thoughts in lieu of perceptions by 'unwittingly believing' they are perceptions.
When 'learning' to substitute thought for perception, it was overlooked that some thoughts are false; do not fit facts. So in those cases the emotions evoked by them are dysfunctional and often 'hurtful' and needless.

May I remind you that 'unwittingly believing' takes place 'behind-the-scenes'/subliminally/involuntarily/by habit/automatically.
Most people do not recognize 'doing' it, but the numbers of those who do is increasing.
Yes, makes sense in general, but what I don't get is your point as to how it relates to the OP. The OP is missing people he loved who have been gone for many years. How is grieving for lost loved ones dysfunctional or needless?

Oh, and when you snottily tell someone they are obviously missing something, make sure you are obviously not missing an apostrophe. The proper form is "you're", a contraction of "you are", not "your".

See? I can be just as snotty. There's really no need for it.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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what the #@&*^^ are you talking about ?
How smart he perceives himself to be is my guess.
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