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Old 10-28-2015, 07:25 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I just looked at the pictures !
Haha...well, that is not so helpful.

I was initially attempting to post the darn thing without all of that, but was instructed to otherwise post the link to it.
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Old 10-28-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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I don't agree with the article. It seems written by someone who had a dysfunctional childhood and/or is looking for excuses.

I have two boys. I come from a family of one girl and one boy. There was no difference in affection given. Sure, at a certain age, you aren't sitting in daddy's or mommy's lap but that should be applying to both boys and girls although, we are getting a lot of kinky parents now. Hugging and kissing (hello, good-bye, good night) is no different.

The sexually obsessed have an addiction. It is not exclusive to males either.

Everything comes down to personal responsibility.
I do think that experiences vary in childhood and depending upon personality and influences, can be affected negatively or positively. Of course many parents know at what point affection is appropriate or not, but I think if some deny that altogether or not allow a boy to express emotion, to "man up" when young, is wrong. I believe children, like "sponges", will emotionally absorb negative messages. Then, we end up with adults who have difficulty expressing themselves and are conflicted.

I believe sex addiction is a real affliction and is atcknowledged as such, with recovery groups for, as with A.A. (Just think Tiger Woods). I am aware some will do this, where even with a regular release, they will require or demand more stimulation and release, but apparently never feel satisfied, when actually it is about something else. It must be similar to how one keeps eating to fill some void.

I recall Dr. Phil addressing a guest regarding his obsession with Porn .. at some point telling the man to "Get a HOBBY!"
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Men obsessed with sex? Imagine that. Women are also obsessed with it as well. Since I have kids in school I can tell you that teen age girls are way more aggressive now than teen age boys. Life in high school and even middle school is nothing like when I was there. My sons are asked from these little princesses all the time about having sex. Girls are about as blatant as can be. No hiding the fact that they are after one thing from the boys.

Next time you get a chance drive by your local high school and see what is going on. A few years back my wife and I were shocked. Boys and sex? These boys have it easier than you think. The girls do the pursuing now. The girls chase the boys now. Our second son is amazed by the fact that he made it out of high school a virgin. He was asked all the time about having sex. He was one of the most popular kids in school. He also has values that keep him from doing things he is not ready to do.
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Old 10-28-2015, 10:57 AM
 
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I think it's more biology than psychology
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:15 AM
 
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Yes, there are a bunch who have posted various issues within "dating and relationships" which prompted this explanation. Some are inexperienced, have grown up in a different time, being affected by other aspects.

Though the point I have been making regarding Psychology affecting decisions and actions, you remind me that different personalities and leanings will contribute to various situations and outcomes, in general. (It is discussed on this site how Extroversion / Introversion affects people, for instance). It is true that though there may be similarities, people are not identical and are complex. It is partly what makes it interesting, but also difficult.

I do think still, that psychological development involving early input, positive or negative messages from parents and outside influences, will be what molds a person and predicts how one treats others, whether it is while dating, being an employer, etc. Whether it is being "traditional" or not, as you say, some learn to take responsibility for their actions or react differently to the same situations.
We all have our own experiences and backgrounds. However, certain characteristics of maturity are universal, such as fortitude, ownership of one's actions, and the ability to see oneself objectively and not blame others for one's situation.

It's interesting to me, because a lot of these guys are Millennials. This is not to characterize an entire generation of people that way, but to point out that Millennials have usually been raised by Baby Boomers--the "Me Generation." I know quite a few Baby Boomers, including some of my siblings, who still blame their lot in life on their parents instead of stepping back and seeing where their situations stem from their own bad choices and/or self-absorption. So it's no surprise that some of them raised kids with similar mindsets.

It's on the kids to shake it off and reinvent themselves, though. I had the same parents my siblings did, yet I grew out of the whole blame-the-parents thing in my early 20s, once I got out into the real world and saw that I could choose how I interacted with it. This isn't to sound self-righteous, but yes, I own the stupid things I've done and the lousy choices I made. Sometimes other people were jerks to me, but sometimes I was the jerk, too. I also accept that sometimes, two perfectly nice people just don't hit it off romantically, and it's not anyone's "fault" or anyone "taking advantage of anyone." There is just no need to blame, blame, blame vast, nebulous groups of people (women, men, society, feminists, liberals, the media, etc.) for what goes on in my own sphere. I'm just not going to give anyone or anything that much control over me.
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Old 10-28-2015, 11:38 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Not, really, no. I'm both a liberal and a feminist and I found that blog post to be a load of crap. So again, no need to politicize to suit whatever agenda you have going on there.

MGTOW is a bunch of losers. That's what it boils down to. They are the kind of men no woman wants, so they are throwing their little hissy and trying to make it sound like they actually have a choice in the matter.
Aw, come on.

It's just the 21st century version of Al Bundy's NO/MA'AM.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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Aw, come on.

It's just the 21st century version of Al Bundy's NO/MA'AM.

Or Spanky and Alfalfa's He-Man Woman-Hater's Club.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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Its simple. Men normally produce much more testosterone than woman.
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Old 10-28-2015, 02:41 PM
 
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Running around with a rock hard shawntz.... that is what is driving it.....
Crude but You hit it on the nail for most men and you didn't even have to get a PHD from the University of California at Santa Cruz like the author.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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men are the simpler and easy gender,,,we like sex and food,,, beyond that if we get steady sex,,,we live not to anger the steady sex partner..(if she is angry she with-holds sex)


women are the complicated sex,,,,like an emotional rubik's cube ... men will never solve

there's a reason men usually die first
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