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What is dishonest is singling women out on a forum that has more women than men on it in general, and complaining that the topics they choose to discuss in a thread specifically set aside for chit-chat are mundane.
In other words, what on earth do you expect on a catch-all chat thread? Furthermore, if you were interested in a human phenomenon, you would not have mentioned gender. You have made this about gender, once again, and once again, considering your posting history, the hostility is all yours. I'm just calling you out on it.
And finally, look at the chat thread on the Relationships forum. Plenty of men making idle chit-chat there.
Because it's a CHAT thread.
Really, this is not rocket science.
Wrong again. I mentioned gender in passing and you are seeking to make it a thread about gender. Also, I specifically noted that people have the right to post whatever they want in a CHAT THREAD. So again, you are twisting the issue. What I was wondering is why people find the mundane topics worthwhile. Two different issues entirely.
I am trying to discuss a concept, and you insist on making it personal - a personal attack actually. News flash: there can be objective truths which are independent of and lie outside of your own emotional field.
Yes, you are. Once you put gender into it with the "mostly female," you made it about gender, and no, your posts are not in a vacuum. If you mentioned the participants were mostly over 65, you would be making it about age. If you mentioned they were mostly from Timbuktu, you would be making it about people from Timbuktu. That you cannot see that is not my problem.
Yes, you are. Once you put gender into it with the "mostly female," you made it about gender, and no, your posts are not in a vacuum. If you mentioned the participants were mostly over 65, you would be making it about age. If you mentioned they were mostly from Timbuktu, you would be making it about people from Timbuktu. That you cannot see that is not my problem.
O.K., you used several posts to vent your personal hostility, but this thread is about a concept - it is not personal. I am looking forward to getting back to the thread topic. If you've forgotten what that is, the thread title expresses it in relatively few words.
In the City-Data Retirement Forum there is a Chat Thread; it is a cool place because we don't have to be worried about staying on-topic. I have posted there about books, movies, commented on City-Data itself, even told jokes.
But there is something I don't understand. Many posters, mostly female,
You are putting words in my mouth (a dishonest debating technique), as I did not claim men never talk about mundane things. ............
Therefore just for the record let me be clear: I have equally little understanding of men who delight in the exchange of banal trivia as I do of women who delight in the same. ...........
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Originally Posted by JasperJade
This phenomenon is not gender-specific.
Few words. There you go. Understand?
What sort of games are you playing? I posted (re-quoted above) that the phenomenon is not gender-specific, and then you come stating the same thing as if in rebuttal! Are you so anxious to go on the attack that you cannot read what I wrote? Do you not care at all about your own credibility?
Momentous events do not happen to most people (even men) every day and not everyone has profound thoughts every waking moment (even men), but people still interact with each other in their daily lives. For the vast majority of the human population who are ordinary mortals, the discussion topics that arise in their ordinary mortal lives are basically just ordinary topics. For those of us who are ordinary mortals and just live ordinary (yet still happy, useful, worthwhile) lives, we still like to interact with other ordinary mortals. So we talk about ordinary mortal things, just everyday, mundane stuff because we're just ordinary mortals. We very likely do appear to be worthless and unworthy to the small number of exalted, superior beings who occasionally deign to walk among us, but we don't really care what they think, so we just go about our ordinary mortal lives interacting with other ordinary mortals in harmless, ordinary conversations, almost certainly none of which involves any new insights into the works of Proust or Mahler. It is what it is.
I posted (re-quoted above) that the phenomenon is not gender-specific,
Good! Now hopefully you'll keep that in mind next time. Imagine if I had come on here and posted your OP and said, "most of them male." There is no doubt in my mind that there would have been responses addressing it and calling me to task for it, and rightly so.
Quick rule of thumb: When mentioning gender in the context of a characterization (ie., having interest in and talking about the "most boring, trivial, mundane, things"), replace whatever that gender is in the sentence with "black." If something sounds obnoxious, baiting, or irrelevant using the word "black," then it's a good bet it will sound obnoxious, baiting, or irrelevant to mention gender.
So why do some people chat about minor aspects of day-to-day living in chat threads? Because chat threads are for chat. When they want to do a deep-dive on something in particular, they'll go to the appropriate subforum. I don't enjoy small talk, so I don't participate in those threads. However, I don't feel the need to judge people who enjoy it by denigrating their interests as "boring, trivial, or mundane," either. That seems petty and snotty to me. However, if you are that interested in why people talk about certain things, ask the people who do it.
Good! Now hopefully you'll keep that in mind next time. Imagine if I had come on here and posted your OP and said, "most of them male." There is no doubt in my mind that there would have been responses addressing it and calling me to task for it, and rightly so.
Quick rule of thumb: When mentioning gender in the context of a characterization (ie., having interest in and talking about the "most boring, trivial, mundane, things"), replace whatever that gender is in the sentence with "black." If something sounds obnoxious, baiting, or irrelevant using the word "black," then it's a good bet it will sound obnoxious, baiting, or irrelevant to mention gender.
So why do some people chat about minor aspects of day-to-day living in chat threads? Because chat threads are for chat. When they want to do a deep-dive on something in particular, they'll go to the appropriate subforum. I don't enjoy small talk, so I don't participate in those threads. However, I don't feel the need to judge people who enjoy it by denigrating their interests as "boring, trivial, or mundane," either. That seems petty and snotty to me. However, if you are that interested in why people talk about certain things, ask the people who do it.
If "most of them male" were a factual, true description, then no one would have cause to take you to task about it. If it were inaccurate, then the inaccuracy should, naturally, be corrected.
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