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Old 03-04-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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I don't understand why traumas that can last a short amount of time (minutes to hours), can have almost permanent negative effects on a person and be incredibly hard to erase. Like PTSD from seeing someone killed or being raped, etc. Lets say you were sexually assaulted or almost murdered and this experience only lasted a half hour. We are incredibly fragile for such a short experience to have huge life lasting and changing effects on us. If you could delete that memory, you would be all good.
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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I don't understand why traumas that can last a short amount of time (minutes to hours), can have almost permanent negative effects on a person and be incredibly hard to erase. Like PTSD from seeing someone killed or being raped, etc. Lets say you were sexually assaulted or almost murdered and this experience only lasted a half hour. We are incredibly fragile for such a short experience to have huge life lasting and changing effects on us. If you could delete that memory, you would be all good.
I will tell you that everyone is different, some are very fragile, some are iron clad, most are somewhere in between. Bloody PTSD is usually a result of your world view being shattered. Most people grow up in a stable family where they are loved and sheltered from the realities of life and death. People do not contemplate death and when some see it in front of them, that stability is instantly destroyed and the sadness / horror of body parts makes them realize that it ends and it ends badly. Some people can deal with this just fine, they are mentally strong. Navy Seal guys especially tend to re-up voluntarily after several tours and long after they filled their obligation. Others can't wait to get the hell out after their first tour and have the urge to go AWOL in the middle of it because they just can't handle it. The trauma compounds every single day and then they start repressing and acting out, and their lives fall apart
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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I will tell you that everyone is different, some are very fragile, some are iron clad, most are somewhere in between. Bloody PTSD is usually a result of your world view being shattered. Most people grow up in a stable family where they are loved and sheltered from the realities of life and death. People do not contemplate death and when some see it in front of them, that stability is instantly destroyed and the sadness / horror of body parts makes them realize that it ends and it ends badly. Some people can deal with this just fine, they are mentally strong. Navy Seal guys especially tend to re-up voluntarily after several tours and long after they filled their obligation. Others can't wait to get the hell out after their first tour and have the urge to go AWOL in the middle of it because they just can't handle it. The trauma compounds every single day and then they start repressing and acting out, and their lives fall apart
Most of those that want to retour do have PTSD and can't cope back in normal society anymore. Just because they are willing to go back doesn't mean anything. They are too broken for normal society.
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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Most of those that want to retour do have PTSD and can't cope back in normal society anymore. Just because they are willing to go back doesn't mean anything. They are too broken for normal society.
I don't know about that, if you have any links I'd be interested to read about soldiers with PTSD that go back in. From what I've seen they never want to see a battlefield ever again and the ones that are too broken end up self-medicating, end up in prison, or worse
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:42 AM
 
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I don't know about that, if you have any links I'd be interested to read about soldiers with PTSD that go back in. From what I've seen they never want to see a battlefield ever again and the ones that are too broken end up self-medicating, end up in prison, or worse
I've just watched documentaries on the subject. I think there were a few on Frontline. You will find soldiers with PTSD who want to go back and those who don't.
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Old 03-04-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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Maybe I'm just a negative person, but I remember the bad things more than the good things in my life. It's the awful emotions that stick with me. Sometimes I don't even remember what happened that caused the bad emotion, but I remember where I was, around what year, and the person who caused it.
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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Your title is very accurate. People are very fragile.
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:28 PM
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It really is individual.

Some people are resilient, and while they'll look back on trauma and say well that was awful, they basically soldier on without a permanent negative effect.

Not everyone who experiences trauma becomes permanently traumatized.

And I'm surprised by both ends of the spectrum - people who can go through really a GREAT deal of terror and seem unfazed, and people for whom it takes almost nothing to completely unhinge them.
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:30 PM
 
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Your title is very accurate. People are very fragile.
It's so much worse now in the snowflake era. Nobody can take any criticism or jabs anymore, everything is potentially offensive and the victimization complex is out of control
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Old 03-04-2019, 01:41 PM
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It's so much worse now in the snowflake era. Nobody can take any criticism or jabs anymore, everything is potentially offensive and the victimization complex is out of control
I think people have always been very hurt by intended jabs and negative criticism.

It's just now, people feel empowered and not embarrassed to say "what you just said is out of line and I don't have to tolerate it". To me, that's a stronger, more powerful response then scuttling away and trying not to call attention to the obnoxious way you've been treated/talked to.
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